<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> Me too, me = too!<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> A Jahn = devotee.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> John = Formsma<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Nichols Sent: Saturday, February = 18, 2006 6:45 PM To: <st1:PersonName = w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName> Subject: RE: = tips<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> At 02:20 PM 2/18/2006 -0500, you wrote: <o:p></o:p> If you have a Schaff extendable = hammer you can not do any better, unless you are competing for the strangest or = most elaborate tool.  <o:p></o:p> HAH! I'm sorry, and I beg to differ. A <st1:place = w:st="on">LOT</st1:place>. Respectfully, Guy Nichols, RPT <o:p></o:p>  That hammer is what 90 = percent of the tuners use and there is a reason: because it is the best.   Also, sorry about the misinformation about Jim Coalman Senior.   I thought he had died after his stroke.   = He was a wonderful man and I owe a lot to him.   Hope things are going well for you and keep up the = good work.   William         PIANO BOUTIQUE William Benjamin Piano Tuner Extraordinaire <a = href="http://www.pianoboutique.biz">www.pianoboutique.biz</a> The tuner alone, preserves the tone.  <o:p></o:p> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora=autourl>mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of pianotune05@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, February = 18, 2006 12:44 PM To: <st1:PersonName = w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName> Subject: RE: tips   Hi William, I thought changing the head is easier than changing the tip.  I kept = hitting my hand on the piano when tuning. I think I have the 5 degree head that = came with the 21schaff hammer.    Someone mentioned a Jahn hammer.  I've seen one of them. The're pretty = neat.  I also saw a hammer that had a screwdriver handle.  <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Marshall</st1:= place></st1:City>   <o:p></o:p> -------------- Original message = -------------- <o:p></o:p> From: "William Benjamin" <pianoboutique@comcast.net> <o:p></o:p></span= > <st1:City = w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Marshall</st1:place></st1:Cit= y>, <o:p></o:p>   = <o:p></o:p> I would suggest = you use a 15 degree knuckle and a number 2 medium tip.   You might try a = long number 2 tip for those places that you mentioned.   Personally = I have a Number 2 long tip with a 15 degree knuckle in my tool kit, because it = is easier to change that way in the field. <o:p></o:p>   = <o:p></o:p> William = <o:p></o:p>   = <o:p></o:p>   = <o:p></o:p>   = <o:p></o:p>   = <o:p></o:p> PIANO BOUTIQUE = <o:p></o:p> William Benjamin = <o:p></o:p> Piano Tuner Extraordinaire <o:p></o:p> <a href="http://www.pianoboutique.biz/">www.pianoboutique.biz</a> = <o:p></o:p> The tuner alone, = <o:p></o:p> preserves the = tone. <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p>= <div class=MsoNormal align=center = style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" = eudora=autourl>mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of pianotune05@comcast.net <o:p></o:p> Sent: Friday, February 17, = 2006 3:15 PM <o:p></o:p> To: <st1:PersonName = w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName> <o:p></o:p> Subject: Re: = tips <o:p></o:p>   = <o:p></o:p> Thanks Steve. I'll check it out.  I'm curious if the higher degree tips will help me in tight = spots and where the piano and handle often meet on tall uprights. = <o:p></o:p> <st1:City = w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Marshall</st1:place></st1:City> <o:p></o:p>   <o:p></o:p> -------------- Original message = -------------- <o:p></o:p> From: "Steve Fujan" = <sjfujan@gmail.com> <o:p></o:p> <st1:City = w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Marshall</st1:place></st1:City>,= <o:p></o:p>   <o:p></o:p> The probability is very high the Watanabe = tips will fit your new Schaff lever.  I have not seen a 20 degree head from = Schaff or PianoTek.  For 20 degree heads check out: <a href="http://www.colemantools.com/">www.colemantools.com </a>. = <o:p></o:p> Regards, <o:p></o:p> Steve Fujan <o:p></o:p> <a = href="http://www.fujanproducts.com/">www.fujanproducts.com</a> <o:p></o:p>   <o:p></o:p> On 2/17/06, <a = href="mailto:pianotune05@comcast.net">pianotune05@comcast.net</a> <<a = href="mailto:pianotune05@comcast.net">pianotune05@comcast.net</a>> = wrote: <o:p></o:p> Hi Steve, = <o:p></o:p> Do these tips fit the = Schaff #21 lever, the rosewood one?  I experienced the tip problem on = Wednesday while tuning a Straube piano. <o:p></o:p> <st1:City = w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Marshall</st1:place></st1:City> <o:p></o:p>   <o:p></o:p> -------------- Original message = -------------- <o:p></o:p> From: "Steve Fujan" <<a href="mailto:sjfujan@gmail.com"> sjfujan@gmail.com</a>> = <o:p></o:p> Don, <o:p></o:p>   <o:p></o:p> I've sold quite a few of the Watanabe = tips.  They have much better fit and consistancy than what I have seen of the recent = Schaff tips.  If you are just buying tips, I suggest getting them from = PianoTek Supply <a = href="http://www.pianoteksupply.com/">www.pianoteksupply.com</a>. = I sell them also, but must mark them up to cover costs. = <o:p></o:p>   <o:p></o:p> Good luck, <o:p></o:p> Steve Fujan <o:p></o:p> <a = href="http://www.fujanproducts.com/">www.fujanproducts.com</a><o:p></o:= p>   <o:p></o:p> On 2/16/06, Don Price <<a href="mailto:dcp3@twol.com">dcp3@twol.com</a>> wrote: = <o:p></o:p> List   -  I've used the Hale = hammer (lever), heads and tips for umpteen <o:p></o:p> years.  Needing to replace a couple of = tips and since Hale is not longer <o:p></o:p> in business, I ordered from = Schaff.   The Schaff tips fit the threads on <o:p></o:p> the hammer O.K., but the tip doesn't fit the = pins as well as the Hale <o:p></o:p> tips did.   The Schaff tip seems to = fit well on the pin at the very end <o:p></o:p> of the tip, but there seems an extreme amount = in and out play (on an <o:p></o:p> upright) on the end of the = hammer.   On a twelve inch hammer length, the <o:p></o:p> end of the hammer will move in/out 1 1/2 to 2 inches.   The Hale tips <o:p></o:p> let the hammer end move less than 1/2 = inch.<o:p></o:p> Do any of you have a recommendation for = another place to find tips which <o:p></o:p> provide a better fit with the = pin?<o:p></o:p> Thanks.<o:p></o:p> Don<o:p></o:p> _____________! ! _______________________! = ___________ <o:p></o:p> Pianotech list info: <a href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</a> <o:p></o:p>   <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> </div> </body> </html>