<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=rol= e_document face=Verdana color=#000000 size=3> <DIV> <DIV>Richard,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I usually do 2 to 2 1/2 coils.  I'd rather have too few coils than= too many.  Unwinding bass string coils ain't much fun.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't use a winder, I just use a dummy tuning pin.  With th= is method, it is easy to keep track of where you are in relation to your target pin.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hope this helps,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dave Stahl</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 6/2/05 7:24:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, richard.ucci@att.net writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size= =2> <P>I had three coils on the pin, and was able to unwind enough to get the string over the hitch pin.</P> <P>RU/UP<BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px sol= id">-------------- Original message from "Alan Barnard" <tune4u@earthlink.net>: -------------- <BR><BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2627" name=GENERATOR> <DIV> <DIV>What you describe is correct assume you pulled the top of the strin= g up to the right pin, used the fat part of your fingers and only made about = 1 1/2 to 2 turns on the coil maker, if you make all three turns it becomes= very hard to stretch the string up and over the in-piano pin. Were you a= ble to unwind the coil a little and get it on?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Alan Barnard</DIV> <DIV>Salem, Missouri</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><= /DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>