<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Verdigris fix</TITLE> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" = http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:thepianoarts@home.com" title=thepianoarts@home.com>thepianoarts</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title=pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 04, = 2001 9:44 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Verdigris fix </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Dale and list,<BR><BR>Several years ago,  a  tech from = a neighboring chapter suggested 'Kutzit' ( as in stripper) as a </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All...</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>Sometime in the past the vertigris = problem was discussed in length on this net..  My understanding is that = nothing can be done about it except replacement of the affected parts.  That = was the conclusion drawn as I understood it. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>In my own experience with two Steinway = Grands......I used Protek generously on the hammer flange bushings.  The action = freed up nicely on both pianos.  One of the pianos was a "D" which = had not been played for 25 years and had been moved from Viginia (wet) to = Helena, MT (dry)   It would not play....hammers just dropped back = slowly.  The Protek did the job and the piano has been in use regularly in St. = Helena Cathedral ever since....6 years or so. The other is an "O" that I = bought and sent to my daughter in Silverdale, WA.  It works just fine too.   One comment:  The swing check on the "B" showed = some variance in the friction, but it never did get much of the green stuff = .... at least not as much as the ":D".  Haven't had any complaint from my = daughter.  My 2$ worth.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dick RPT MT</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>possible treatment  in treating vertigris.  I have used = it on several nasty vertigris Steinways,  grands <BR>----- Original = Message -----<BR><BR><B>From:</B> Allan L. Gilreath, RPT<BR><BR><B>Sent:</B> = Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:20 AM<BR><BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: naphtha + mineral oil<BR><BR><BR>Terry,<BR><BR>The original research found this to work = better at a concentration of 8<BR>parts naphtha to 1 part silicone. =  There are other variables that you can<BR>get into but I've been working with a = chemist on some of these particulars.<BR>But maybe I can play with that more = after next summer.<BR><BR>Allan<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On = Behalf<BR>Of pianolover 88<BR>Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:16 PM<BR>To: pianotech@ptg.org<BR>Subject: Re: naptha + mineral oil<BR><BR><BR>I'm = waiting for my order of 100% Silicone Liquid, from Baldwin. This will be<BR>my = substitute for the outrageously priced Protek! This is cut 20/1<BR>naptha/silicone.<BR><BR>Terry Peterson<BR>Precision Piano Service<BR>Torrance, CA<BR><BR><BR>>From: "Howard S. Rosen" <hsrosen@earthlink.net><BR>>Reply-To: = pianotech@ptg.org<BR>>To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org><BR>>Subject: naptha + mineral = oil<BR>>Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 12:53:14 = -0400<BR>><BR>><BR>>Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 07:40:29 -0400<BR>>From: "Phil Bondi" <tito@PhilBondi.com><BR>>Subject: Re: naphtha + mineral oil<BR>><BR>> >     A number of years = ago, I worked in a piano shop where the we used a<BR>> > mixture of = mineral oil and naphtha to lubricate sluggish flanges. =  What<BR>>is<BR>> > anyone's opinion on this?<BR>> > Gary McCormick<BR>> ><BR>>..I'm really glad someone else mention this before = me..yes..I use this, and<BR>>it works just fine...4 parts naphtha-1 part Mineral = oil.<BR>><BR>>whew,<BR>>roo(k)<BR>>__________________________= _________<BR>><BR>>I agree with the roo(k). I've used this for 30 years with great results and<BR>>no adverse effects. However, my formula is 8 parts naphtha = to 1 part<BR>>mineral<BR>>oil. My feeling is that 4 to 1 might be too = oily and might gum things up. I<BR>>don't know for sure...just a gut feeling.<BR>><BR>>With all the praises for Proteck, I too never = felt that it worked any<BR>>better<BR>>than my formula above. = Amazing, isn't it, how we techs differ in our ideas,<BR>>approaches, = opinions,methods etc. ?<BR>><BR>>Howard S. Rosen, RPT<BR>>7262 Angel Falls Ct.<BR>>Boynton Beach, FL =  33437<BR>><BR>>561-737-2057<BR>>hsrosen@earthlink.net<BR>&= gt;<BR><BR><BR>__________________________________________________________= _______<BR>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at = http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp<BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY= ></HTML>