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<DIV><SPAN class=340280521-18102003>Hello Dale,</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=340280521-18102003>Interesting comments, is not =
condition 1
providing the back bearing only effect I think about (plate lowered, =
weak crown
or distorsed board).</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=340280521-18102003>I suspect that the lack of =
firmness in front
termination is giving that loud klang tone, without power problem =
because the
downbearing (stiffening of the board ) is yet provided.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=340280521-18102003>I know fairly well condition =
5
;>)</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=340280521-18102003>Greetings</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la =
part
de</B> Erwinspiano@aol.com<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> samedi 18 =
octobre 2003
18:12<BR><B>À :</B> =
pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re:
Clang<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 10/17/2003 9:33:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Erwinspiano writes:</DIV>
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face=Arial><FONT size=3>is is a piano that is relatively =
recently strung
and still shows some<BR>crown in the middle, maybe 1/16". =
Since I
don't know how the bearing was<BR>set, what combinations of =
board/bearing
settings might also contribute to<BR>this. =
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size=4><STRONG> David
, see condition 3 below as a perhaps</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><FONT size=3><BR><BR>I would be interested to hear =
what
combinations generally produce what<BR>kinds of tone as a =
diagnostic
tool. For example:<BR><BR>1. A board with weak crown that =
has
excessive bearing.<BR> 2.A board with good crown but too =
light
bearing.<BR> 3.A board with weak crown and light bearing. =
<STRONG>(or
no bearing) <BR></STRONG> 4.A board with good crown and
excessive bearing. <BR><STRONG> 5. Also Unevenly set =
bearing
pressure.</STRONG></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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color=#000040> <FONT
size=4> 1. Actually sometimes not too bad but can have weak =
treble due
to reversed crown under the trebles. Seen sunken bridges & =
deformed
board S&S A -2</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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2. Only fair sustain not as much power or woof to the =
sound. I've
seen this in a ( 9ft. Kawai)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040 =
size=4> 3. Weak
sound that breaks up & commonly shows particular impedance =
problems in
octave four & elsewhere. Loud or distorted attack or thwack as I =
call
it.(could be clang?) Can't be voiced out or to blend. Lots of =
old
S&S's especially L'S & O's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040 =
size=4> 4.
Tends to sound choked for power but can still illicit some sustain =
with a
harder /heavier hammer & careful voicing. Don't see this
much</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040 =
size=4> 5.
Weakness in the offending area. I've induced this myself once in a =
S&S
A-3 with new board. Repairing the bearing uniformity fixed the =
tonal
problem.</FONT></DIV>
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ANybody
else?</FONT></DIV>
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Dale</FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><FONT size=3><BR>David
Love<BR>davidlovepianos@earthlink.net<BR></FONT><BR><BR>> =
[Original
Message]<BR>> From: Bill Ballard =
<yardbird@vermontel.net><BR>>
To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org><BR>> Date: 10/17/2003 =
8:36:35
PM<BR>> Subject: Re: Clang<BR>><BR>> At 7:30 PM -0700 =
10/17/03,
David Love wrote:<BR>> >What in a soundboard, crown, =
bearing, etc.,
can cause a kind of clangy<BR>> >tone. Decent sustain, =
but
kind of a clang. Old board, new softish<BR>>
>hammers.<BR>><BR>> Usually, a loud attack signals a =
board
too soft (ie., lacking in the <BR>> impedance necessary to tame =
the
flow of energy from string to board). <BR>> What does the crown =
look
like?<BR>><BR>> Bill Ballard RPT<BR>> NH Chapter,
P.T.G.<BR>><BR>> "All God's Children got =
Rhythm"<BR>>
...........Ivy Anderson in "A Day at the =
Races"<BR>>
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