<html> Hi Brian,                Add triple damper blocks for the bass dampers to help reduce that over ring bleed.  You can use a couple of temp strips, on all the bass strings to determine if this is going to help solve the problem.   I have noticed over the years this is the major cause of customer complaints. regards Roger At 05:27 AM 12/5/01 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Phil, > >If it is indeed the speaking lengths of the upper >unmuted strings that is ringing on, there's not >much to be done except adding dampers (possible >perhaps, but not likely practical). > >It is possible that a set of poorly working bass >dampers can give a similar effect by excessively >bleeding overtones. > >Another possibility would be waste lengths that >are speaking.  Some piano makers don't bother to >mute off anything in their upright pianos leaving >the lengths between tuning pin and the first >bearing point open, the front duplex area open, >and the rear duplex area open.  And when you add >that all up, that's a lot of open string to be >jangling away unchecked. > >I think if it was me, I'd start with doing my >best to make sure the dampers that are there work >as well as they can.  (Adding some mass to them >may or may not be helpful, especially in the >bass.) Then I'd have at it with a roll of string >braid or similar acting substance of choice. >After that, it gets more complicated, whether >it's finding a better piano, or altering this >one. > >Good luck, > >Brian T. > > >===== >Brian Trout >Grand Restorations >3090 Gause Blvd., #202 >Slidell, LA  70461 >985-649-2700 >GrandRestorations@yahoo.com > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. ><a href="http://shopping.yahoo.com/" eudora="autourl">http://shopping.yahoo.com</a> > </html>