<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1491" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN = class=220015414-21042005></SPAN><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT = size=3>W<SPAN class=220015414-21042005>e private label these pianos and the one we = got from Dongbei would had been label as Niemeyer. The case parts were poorly = fitted and constructed. We had to bushed all contact areas of the bottom board = because of squeaks when using pedals. The poor fit on the plate flange and = pinblock makes sense. I also noticed a large difference in pitch as you cross = over the break between tenor and treble section. I have unpack pianos from the = Beijing factory that have been made over a year ago that are almost in tune.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT = color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN = class=220015414-21042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN class=220015414-21042005></SPAN><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT = Bold"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3>I<SPAN class=220015414-21042005> have = seen two piano from Young Chang China and was not impress. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT = Bold"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=220015414-21042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV= > <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT = Bold"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=220015414-21042005>Wayne</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR><SPAN class=220015414-21042005><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT = Bold" color=#0000ff size=3> </FONT></SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Paul McCloud [mailto:pmc033@earthlink.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 21, 2005 = 10:46 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Chinese pianos<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV> <DIV>We sell Nordiska pianos at our store.  The quality overall = is very good, but there are occasional problems with some of them.  I = attribute this to old stock.  If you have tuning problems, check the pinblock-to-flange fit.  Some were not mated at all.  = Installing shims worked well.  I've seen some corrosion on strings, = discoloration of bass strings.  Overall I'm quite happy with the new ones coming = in.  I'm not sure of which brands are made in this same factory, there are several.  The Nordiska factory is a "factory within a factory", = in which all the workers, the building, and all the materials (except the case = parts and plate) are made there.  The other buildings are used for = making the other pianos (different names).  The Nordiska plant is = spotless.  The workers are more experienced, and are paid more.  They are = envied by the other workers, naturally.  Bridges are well made, most of the = cabinetry is! good, the quality of hammers is excellent.  Some = action prep is needed in many cases.  Overall they are a good = value.  We also have Falconi (I'm not sure which factory makes them.  = Quality is fair on these.  I don't much care for the Bergmann pianos (Young = Chang Chinese) as they had/have many problems for which our store is still = trying to sort out.  We've had to do repairs on most of the ones we've = sold, but no compensation is forthcoming from Young Chang (gee, I wonder = why).  I don't have experience much with pearl River or derivatives, so I can't = say about that factory.</DIV> <DIV>    FWIW,</DIV> <DIV>    Paul McCloud</DIV> <DIV>    San Diego</DIV> <DIV>    "The Piano Exchange"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=wayne.w@musicstop.com = href="mailto:wayne.w@musicstop.com">Wayne Walker</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 04/21/2005 6:21:01 AM = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Chinese pianos</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV><SPAN class=980431013-21042005><FONT face="Comic Sans = MS">Hello folks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=980431013-21042005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=980431013-21042005><FONT face="Comic Sans = MS">The store that I work for has been carrying pianos from the Beijing Piano = factory for about 7 years.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=980431013-21042005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I = like to see some feedback from other techs about how they feel about these = pianos. We are pleased with the improving quality of these instrument. Yamaha = or Steinway they are not but they are good value for entry level = consumer. We tried some pianos from Dongbei factory. These piano needed more = prepping and had tuning problems.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=980431013-21042005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=980431013-21042005> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Wayne Walker</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Piano Tuner & = Technician</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">MUSICSTOP LTD</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">1005 Dow Rd, New Minas, = NS</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">B4N 3R4</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Cell 902-221-1540</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Fax 902-681-1463</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><A = href="mailto:wayne.w@musicstop.com">wayne.w@musicstop.com</A></FONT></D= IV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><A = href="http://www.musicstop.com/">www.musicstop.com</A></FONT></DIV></SP= AN></DIV><BR> <HR> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.<BR>It = has removed 1084 spam emails to date.<BR>Paying users do not have this = message in their emails.<BR>Try <A = href="http://www.spamfighter.com/Product_Info.asp?">SPAMfighter</A> = for free now!<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.<BR>It has = removed 1087 spam emails to date.<BR>Paying users do not have this message in = their emails.<BR>Try <A href="http://www.spamfighter.com/Product_Info.asp?">SPAMfighter</A> = for free now!<BR></BODY></HTML>