<html> <body> Ron, Marketing speak usually can be distinguished by where it is printed, and perhaps by what it says, as in this case.  Or was your question meant to be rhetorical? I have asked our web person to remove the offending text pending correction by myself or Nick Gravagne, our technical manager. The person who wrote that blurb on the Kawai web site really doesn't understand these things (obviously enough), and should have had it reviewed before publishing it like that.  It probably has been there for a years, too. It's easy to be smug and knowledgeable and laugh at someone's meager efforts at making a sales picth out of something they don't really understand.  All you have to do is read a little Dilbert to understand how this process works (and you thought that strip was imaginary???). In my seminars I put the word "Permant" in quotes.  That works for me. ;-) Don At 08:28 PM 1/27/2004, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Terry, Never take marketing speak seriously. Don Mannino</blockquote> Sage advice. Distinguishable from the real stuff, how? Ron N _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: <a href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a></blockquote></body> </html>