<HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Pinblock fitting revisited</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Hmm.  My delete button must be on automatic.  You're right and th= anks for putting everything in perspective. Ted Simmons <BLOCKQUOTE> From: Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org> Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:44:51 -0500 To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org> Subject: Re: Pinblock fitting revisited </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE>Maybe you are hitting the delete button too fast? It seems to m= e the following responses directly address the gap in the pinblock/flange fi= t. No? Terry Farrell Is it safe to assume the piano has been strung for a while and has stabilized somewhere near standard pitch? I would recommend tapping some <B= R> hardwood shims into the gaps between the plate flange and pinblock and see = if that helps - if suddenly it becomes stable, then I guess the answer is <= BR> obvious. At least it won't hurt anything. Terry Farrell I agree, and the one thing you DON"T want to do is sell him an expensive wedge and shim job, saying that will fix it, until you try this. Ron N Ted, from my brief experiences with unstable pianos due to what appears <BR= > to be a poor-fitting block-to-plate, it's very important. 1/8" is quit= e a bit of play, IMHO. Hardwood shims..re-tune - evaluate. -Phil Bondi(Fl) Since the customer is confused by previous advice and research, if t= he flange fit IS a problem but the pins are tight and I think I'd flip it over= and use wood and epoxy to fill the gaps rather than try to sell a bigger<BR= > job. Don't forget the drop cloth! Alan Barnard Salem, Missouri ----- Original Message ----- <BLOCKQUOTE> I guess I didnšt explain myself too well in my previous post on pinblock fi= tting.  The answers I received so far ignored the fact that the pinbloc= k to plate flange fit had gaps in it and implied that frequent tunings is th= e only solution.  What I need to know is if there is a situation where = the pinblock to plate fit doesnšt matter.  This is contrary to all Išve= been told and all Išve read about over the years.  All replies will be= appreciated. Ted Simmons Whatšs the latest on whether or not a pinblock should but= t against the plate flange?  I have a customer who has a rebuilt piano = that wonšt hold tune for even a day and when I removed the action and checke= d the pinblock-to-plate fit I found gaps throughout, some as much as 1/8 inc= h.  Two weeks after I tuned it I found it over 20 cents flat and had to= give it a pitch raise.  A few weeks later it was overly flat again and= in need of a pitch raise.  I explained to the customer about the pinbl= ock to plate flange fit but he said that he was told by the rebuilder that s= uch a thing was not important.  To top it off he did some research and = got conflicting comments.  Some said the piano is OK as is while others= held to the conviction that the gaps in the pinblock are the problem with h= is piano.  I need some backup in my assessment, either pro or con. Ted Simmons Viera, Florida </BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML>