<html> At 11:17 AM 08/30/2001 -0400, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite cite>I specialize in sssssslllllooooooowwwww pitch raises. As a matter of fact, I am an expert. Although I am ssssslllloooooowwwwwwwly losing my touch  :-). My average pitch raise is 30 to 35 minutes. It was not that long ago that they were all taking me 50 to 60 minutes  :-(. Even a one hour pitch raise with proper use of an ETD (in my case the SAT) results in a very accurate pitch raise. Wouldn't adding additional tension to a string cause it to slowly stretch a tad after the initial tension increase? I have always assumed that to be the case when chipping the piano. I know it happened that way on my mother's clothes line (he said, setting himself up). Terry Farrell</blockquote> Pitch raising is wholesale tension application.  Get it down to 20 minutes or less. Tune from there.  A pitch raise and rough tuning - one hour. Jon Page,   piano technician Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass. <a href="mailto:jon.page@verizon.net" eudora="autourl">mailto:jon.page@</a>verizon<a href="mailto:jon.page@verizon.net" eudora="autourl">.net</a> <a href="http://www.stanwoodpiano.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.stanwoodpiano.com</a> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</html>