<HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-= 1"> <META content="IncrediMail 1.0" name=GENERATOR>  </HEAD> <BODY style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0px 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 5px= 10px 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=#ffffff background="" scroll== yes ORGYPOS="0"> <TABLE id=INCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100= %" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; CURSOR: auto; FONT-F= AMILY: Arial" width="100%"> <DIV> The angle the wedge is put in plays a big part. The wider the = angle the tighter it is. I use three wedges, and keep the newest for the = Bass and tenor. The thinnest is used from about A4 up and usually is the = first to break.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A very versatile and fast tool once you get used to the noise they m= ake.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Robin Stevens ARPT</DIV> <DIV>South Australia </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original Message-------</I></D= IV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=receivestrings> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href="m= ailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> 07/02/05 08:= 58:23</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mai= lto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: A rea= l West Virginia piano</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've thought of dipping them in that tool-handle stuff</DIV> <DIV>to make the ends a bit rubbery, but haven't tried it</DIV> <DIV>yet.</DIV> <DIV>     Thump</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>--- John Ross <<A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano= @win.eastlink.ca</A>> wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>> Hi Warren,</DIV> <DIV>> I used to file a notch, but it just speeded up the</DIV> <DIV>> wear process.</DIV> <DIV>> I sometimes put it above the hammers, and it will</DIV> <DIV>> sometimes stay in place there, where it won't below.</DIV> <DIV>> It seems to be worse on some pianos than others. I</DIV> <DIV>> don't know if this is due to the proximity to the</DIV> <DIV>> dampers, or a more 'alive' string.</DIV> <DIV>> Thanks.</DIV> <DIV>> John</DIV> <DIV>> John M. Ross</DIV> <DIV>> Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada</DIV> <DIV>> <A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink= .ca</A></DIV> <DIV>>   ----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV>>   From: Warren Fisher</DIV> <DIV>>   To: Pianotech</DIV> <DIV>>   Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:42 PM</DIV> <DIV>>   Subject: Re: A real West Virginia piano</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>>   John,</DIV> <DIV>>   If you take a small file and make a slight indent</= DIV> <DIV>> to catch the strings, they will stay put.  You do</DI= V> <DIV>> insert them under the hammers don't you?</DIV> <DIV>>   Warren</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>>   Warren Fisher- Navy Retired - Slidell, Louisiana</D= IV> <DIV>>   98 2500 Dodge Cummins TD, DTT Auto, Smart</DIV> <DIV>> Controller, E-Brake, ATF, EGT, and Boost gauges, Mag</DIV> <DIV>> Hytec tranny and differential pans, Aux. tranny</DIV> <DIV>> cooler, 4" exhaust, monster air filter, engine 125</DIV> <DIV>> hp upgrade.</DIV> <DIV>>   02 Titanium fiver 28E33, aerodynamic front end,</DI= V> <DIV>> 2-120W solr panls, Friendship 2000 invrtr,</DIV> <DIV>>   four Lifeline absorbed glass mat battries, Honda</D= IV> <DIV>> 5000 genset</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>>     ----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV>>     From: John Ross</DIV> <DIV>>     To: Pianotech</DIV> <DIV>>     Sent: 7/1/2005 12:58:34 PM</DIV> <DIV>>     Subject: Re: A real West Virginia piano= </DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>>     Speaking of Papp's mutes, I have troubl= e, having</DIV> <DIV>> them stay between the strings when they are new.</DIV> <DIV>>     I was thinking of trying a piece of the= hooked</DIV> <DIV>> side of the Velcro on it, to grab the hammer rail</DIV> <DIV>> felt, to hold it in place.</DIV> <DIV>>     Any other ideas?</DIV> <DIV>>     I seem to remember someone saying they = used two,</DIV> <DIV>> for doing the centre strings.</DIV> <DIV>>     I thought that was their main advantage= , that</DIV> <DIV>> with the spring, they allowed the centre string to</DIV> <DIV>> sound, using just one.</DIV> <DIV>>     Another thing about the Papp's mute, th= e blue</DIV> <DIV>> material seems to wear out much faster than the</DIV> <DIV>> original white stuff. Needs replacing about once a</DIV> <DIV>> year, now.</DIV> <DIV>>     I tried a film of C/A on the end, and t= hat seems</DIV> <DIV>> to increase the lifespan somewhat.</DIV> <DIV>>     John M. Ross</DIV> <DIV>>     Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada</DIV> <DIV>>     <A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.= ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV> <DIV>>       ----- Original Message ----= -</DIV> <DIV>>       From: Michael Gamble</DIV> <DIV>>       To: Cy Shuster ; <A href== "mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV>>       Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005= 2:15 PM</DIV> <DIV>>       Subject: Re: A real West Vi= rginia piano</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>>       Hello Cy</DIV> <DIV>>       After all this time I find = upright pianos</DIV> <DIV>> being referred to on the List! I though you all had</DIV> <DIV>> S&S, M&H, Yam grands only in US!</DIV> <DIV>>       I use a Papps wedge only on= uprights. I find</DIV> <DIV>> the rubber fiddly to get in between the strings in a</DIV> <DIV>> hurry!</DIV> <DIV>>       Regards from a rainy evenin= g in Sussex</DIV> <DIV>>       Michael G.(UK)</DIV> <DIV>>         ----- Original = Message -----</DIV> <DIV>>         From: Cy Shuste= r</DIV> <DIV>>         To: Pianotech</= DIV> <DIV>>         Sent: Friday, J= uly 01, 2005 5:37 PM</DIV> <DIV>>         Subject: A real= West Virginia piano</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>>         At first, I tho= ught this black, powdery</DIV> <DIV>> stuff was mold -- but there was no rust on the</DIV> <DIV>> strings, and it was only on the tops of the hammers.</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>>         As I dared to t= ouch it, a train went</DIV> <DIV>> rumbling by (100 yards or more away), and the light</DIV> <DIV>> bulb came on: very fine coal dust!  Finally, an</DIV> <DIV>> environment that is *beneficial* to a piano!  :-)</DI= V> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>>         --Cy Shuster--<= /DIV> <DIV>>         Bluefield, WV</= DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>____________________________________________________</DIV> <DIV>Yahoo! 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