<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=blue link=blue bgColor=white> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Hello,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Been a long time not there. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>I caught on that heavy Shimmel. Being produced a while ago (in the 70's) = there where a grand serial (2,00 M I guess) with very heavy touch , and indeed = , the fact was that the actio ratio was too high on these to work correctly = with the hammers choosed. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>May be the capstan where misplaced too. I had one and tried to lighten it a few = years ago in the shop , and, before I did not work the Stanwood method in = these times, I was unable to obtain a good touch even with a lot of lube and the best = regulation I could obtain.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>They where aware of that and stopped the model quick.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>To obtain the 60 , 50 g or whatever was DW, a lot of lead was used, plus = whippen springs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Very light hammers can mùay be help, but better check the geometry and = optimize it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Regards.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=235045211-01052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Isaac OLEG</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> = owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]<B>De la part de</B> Tom Driscoll<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> mercredi 1 mai 2002 = 13:33<BR><B>À :</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Objet :</B> RE: ACTION WEIGHTS<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Stuart & Aimee = Balsillie<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Wednesday, May 01, 2002</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">5:32 AM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> = pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> ACTION = WEIGHTS</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To = all,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would be most = appreciative if anybody would be able to help  me understand problems with = touch weight in actions.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was recently talking = to a friend who is a piano technician and he was showing me a Schimmel grand = action he just got in for repair ( not sure what size grand as he only had the = action but apparently  the piano is 30 years old,  and has not been = touched by anyone)  He said the touch was very heavy, and when he = put weights on it the keys would not budge under 60 grams although this = varied from key to key.I asked if it was only due to heavy hammers? surely = there must be friction problems as well (as I am sure Schimmel would not = regulate their actions to 60 grams (is this assumption right?)   He = said yes there was friction problems an he proceeded to quickly lubricate the = roller on middle C, when he put the weights on this key it then moved at around = 50 grams. I thought surely this would prove that there were friction = problems and not hammer weight problems, he explained to me that although the = weight had dropped the hammers were too heavy and that it will not play properly. = I seem to have an uneasy feeling about this explanation and would be most = grateful for anyone able to help explain what may be happening in this action.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">sincerely,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Stuart Balsillie</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Piano Technician</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Kyneton</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Australia</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A = href="mailto:sabalsillie@bigpond.com">sabalsillie@bigpond.com</A></SPAN= ></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">           = </SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">           = Stuart, </SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">           = Sounds like a guy who  wants to put new hammers on this thing. . = If they are not worn, IMHO he should continue with the cleaning, polishing, = lube routine. Key pins, capstans, knuckles, rep. levers, jacks, key easing = at the bushings and balance rail hole.possible action centers if too tight. = Action regulation, damper timing etc. </SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">           = How accurate are the weights?  60 grams isn’t that heavy . = Sometimes the jack position under the knuckle will give you excessive resistance at = letoff and make the action feel heavy during pianissimo play. = </SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">           = Just my opinion, but I doubt it is a hammer weight issue. = </SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">           = Tom Driscoll</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>