<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks ric! I'm back to tuning  pianos about = half time after the heart attacks. Guess I'll just drift into retirement and work = as much as I want to and not sweat the pressure of full days. It was hard moving = out of our house of 20 years and losing the shop I had, though. I'm back = to doing key bushings on the kitchen table again!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>You got me to thinking that a piano I service has a = weird springy feel at the very end of the key stroke. I think I missed that = one as a problem with the stop rail being too close toward the dampers. It's hard = to feel problems in an upright key due to the damper pick-up by the spoon, vague = let-off feel, back check engaging too soon. Even harder to see the problems in = slow motion, as what you see isn't what you experience in real time speed. = Does that mean I should just service grands?    :-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Joseph Alkana  RPT<BR><A href="mailto:josephspiano@comcast.net">josephspiano@comcast.net</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no href="mailto:Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no">Richard Brekne</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 02, 2004 2:57 = AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Damper Stop = Rail</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Hey Joe !! nice to see you up again. Hows kicks = ?<BR><BR>Joseph Alkana wrote:<BR><BR>> Way too easy! But you're right about = approaching a problem with our <BR>> diagnostic skills and critical thinking in = gear and functioning <BR>> sharply! Observation, observation observation.<BR>>  <BR>><BR>Funny how you can look at = something all day sometimes and see nothing... <BR>or only what you want to eh ?<BR><BR>>  <BR>> OK, my real piano question: how should = the damper stop rail be set in <BR>> verticals?<BR><BR><BR>Ah... this is = easy... obvioulsy you want it to stop the damper from <BR>banging into = anything on the way out... as in the lower half banging <BR>into the strings... or the = head banging into the hammer shank or <BR>something else.<BR><BR>Then you = also want to avoid it actually moving out much more then it <BR>moves when = engaged by either the pedal or the key, as there is no need <BR>for any more = motion  and this can easily end up being felt to <BR>prominantly at the key.<BR><BR>But then...  it has to be able to move enough so that = it does not <BR>inhibit either the pedal or the key in any sense. = <BR><BR>Ideally, the damper lever should be fairly parallel with the string <BR>plane and = the damper lift from the pedal should be just the same or <BR>perhaps an = 1-2 mm greater then normal key play.  Add to that about 3 - 5 <BR>mm of = travel for the stop rail... and all should be well.<BR><BR>> Thought about = that the last time I tried to put a strip mute in a <BR>> Baldwin = 243  treble and I had no room to maneuver the strip in place. <BR>> = Please respond  on subject line "*Damper stop Rail"*. Seems to be a = <BR>> lot of variance out there among the various piano manufactures. Never = <BR>> ever found this subject in any of the books normally available.<BR><BR><BR>Variety is .... well it  just is isnt it ? :)<BR><BR>Cheers<BR>RicB<BR><BR>> Joseph Alkana  RPT<BR>> = <A href="mailto:josephspiano@comcast.net">josephspiano@comcast.net</A> = <<A = href="mailto:josephspiano@comcast.net">mailto:josephspiano@comcast.net<= /A>><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>pia= notech list info: <A = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>