<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"><HEAD><TITLE>Re: Howdya get CA = off of polyester???</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2668" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C59418.9519A920" rel=File-List> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; } @font-face { font-family: Verdana; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; = mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; mso-paper-source: 0; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } P.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } PRE { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } SPAN.EmailStyle18 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply; = mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-ansi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: = 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; = mso-bidi-font-family: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" vLink=purple = link=blue bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>To make a polyester finish satin, it = appears that the finish is rubbed with a block that is covered in superfine steel = wool, or a fine grit sand paper. This breaks up the shine with very fine scratches, = that go in straight lines, not circular.</DIV> <DIV>There is one story I heard of a guy that = had a satin finish Yamaha, and he polished it so much that it ended up with = some sections high gloss and some not. They had neglected to tell him, his = finish was satin, and he thought is should be shinier.</DIV> <DIV>John M. Ross Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada <A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV>= <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From: <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 = 12:11 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: Howdya get CA off = of polyester???</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Oops, I missed that. Right you are. Thanks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But that begs another question: Is it = not likely that either the finish is not polyester or that another finish has = been applied over the poly? I don't know that I have ever seen a polyester = finish in satin - seems it would just turn kinda white. Best be careful with = this one....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Terry Farrell</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> In this = particular case it is a satin finish. I don’t think he’ll need the buffing = wheel or polish. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> Dean<o:p></o:p> Dean = May           &n= bsp; cell 812.239.3359<o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272<o:p></o:p> Terre = Haute IN  47802<o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> CA can be dissolved with = acetone. Acetone won't hurt polyester, particularly if its only in contact = with the polyester for a short time. After you wash the CA off, just polish = the polyester surface again with any of the polymer polishes. It will = take the slight dulling off to come up just like new. But please make sure that the = finish you are proposing to removing the CA from is indeed polyester. If its = acid cat or any of the other lacquers, acetone will remove both the CA and = the lacquer coating.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> <o:p> </o:p></DIV> <DIV> Ron O.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> <o:p> </o:p></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" cite="" type="cite">And = then of course, have your buffing wheel available!<o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" cite="" type="cite"> <o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" cite="" type="cite">Terry = Farrell<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> I = have scraped it off with a razor or knife and then dressed the finish with a = little 4/0 steel wool. You could even use some 600 sandpaper first and = then the steel wool. Try an inconspicuous area first to see how it is = going to look on the finish. But if you can hardly see it now probably = hitting a couple of times with the steel wool will make it disappear.<o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">  <o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> Dean<o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> Dean May<o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">  <o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> I = just finished tuning a satin walnut polyester piano that has a few = loose pins.  It's a couple of years old, and still under = warranty, but I figured I try to CA a couple of pins anyway. <o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">  <o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> Just to prove that performing that operation requires care and patience, = I spilled a very small amount on the keyslip....:-([(<o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> At = least it isn't laquer.  I got most of it off before it had time to = set, but as we all know, the stuff dries durned fast!  So there are = a couple of very small marks on the front. <o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">  <o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> The finish doesn't appear to be damaged at all, and it's hardly visible, = but I can see it.  I'd like to do right by the customer and get it = off if possible, but I didn't want to apply chemicals that might take = the finish off in conjunction with the glue...<o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">  <o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> If = any of you have an idea about how to remove this stuff, please let me know!<o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">  <o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> It's always on the fourth tuning of the day...<o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">  <o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> Thanks in advance!<o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">  <o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> Dave = Stahl</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLO= CKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>