<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;= charset=us-ascii"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="Microsoft Word 9" name=Generator> <META content="Microsoft Word 9" name=Originator><LINK= href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4B1E7.5F64A690" rel=File-List> <STYLE>  </STYLE> <o:SmartTagType name="PersonName"= namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:Sm= artTagType><o:SmartTagType name="time"= namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:Sm= artTagType><o:SmartTagType name="date"= namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:Sm= artTagType></HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" vLink=blue link=blue= bgColor=white> <DIV class=Section1> <FONT= face=Arial color=#993366 size=2>My tuning fee= includes some travel time.   Shop work is done when= I'm home.   I set an hourly shop fee minus the= travel. <FONT= face=Arial color=#993366 size=2>  <FONT= face=Arial color=#993366 size=2>David= I. <FONT= face=Arial color=#993366 size=2>  <FONT= face=Arial color=#993366 size=2>----- Original= message ----------------------------------------> From:= Dean May <<A= href="mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com">deanmay@pianorebuilder= s.com</A>> To: Pianotech <<A= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>> Rec= eived: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:14:37 -0500 Subject: RE: Setting= Rates <FONT= face=Arial color=#993366 size=2> My= philosophy is that procedures, like tuning, should earn one more= money than standard hourly shop work. It is the way most every= other profession charges. An ob doctor has a set fee for= delivering a baby. It matters not if you labor one hour or= twenty. It doesn’t matter if you go one month early and don’t’= get the final four office visits, either. For us, as we perfect= our techniques and time required goes down, our rates should not= go down, they should go up, if anything. The customer is getting= a more experienced tuner/technician, and our rates should= reflect that. <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> Dean<FONT= face="Bradley Hand ITC" color=#993366 size=6><SPAN= style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 22pt; COLOR: #993366;= FONT-FAMILY: 'Bradley Hand ITC'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;= mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p> Dean= May      <SPAN= style="mso-spacerun:= yes">       cell= 812.239.3359<SPAN= style="COLOR: #993366; mso-color-alt:= windowtext"><o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272<FONT= color=#993366><o:p></o:p> Terre Haute= IN = 47802<SPAN= style="COLOR: #993366; mso-color-alt:= windowtext"><o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> -----Original Message----- <SPAN= style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:= pianotech-bounces@ptg.org= [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of David Love <SPAN= style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: Thursday, October 14,= 2004 10:25 AM To: 'Pianotech' Subject: RE: Setting Rates  <o:p></o:p> I think your tuning rate should be based on= what the job should take, about 1 hour give or take.<SPAN= style="mso-spacerun: yes">  If $90. is the going= rate in your area then use it.  If it takes you longer because you are still= increasing your speed then you might have to eat that difference= for awhile.  But I= would have a higher hourly rate relative to your tuning= fee.   I would= also have a minimum charge for showing up to fix a problem= unrelated to tuning. = If your tuning fee is $90. then a minimum of $75. or so= would be appropriate. = You can decide on a case by case basis whether that is or= isn’t appropriate. = But you should have a set minimum that you quote.<SPAN= style="mso-spacerun: yes"> = <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> <SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">David= Love <st1:PersonName>davidlovepianos@comcast.net</st1:PersonName><SPAN= style="mso-no-proof: yes"> <FONT= color=black><o:p></o:p> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in;= BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in;= BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM:= medium none"> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none;= mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in= 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-----= Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt;= BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM:= medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt;= mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> <DIV style="font-color: black">From:<FONT= face=Arial color=black size=2> <A= title=toddpianoworks@yahoo.com= href="mailto:toddpianoworks@yahoo.com">Matthew Todd</A>= <SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;= mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p> </DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none;= mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in= 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN= style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To: <A title=pianotech@ptg.org= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>= <SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;= mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none;= mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in= 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN= style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent: <st1:date Year="2004" Day="14"= Month="10">Thursday, October 14, 2004</st1:date> <st1:time= Minute="12" Hour="8">8:12 AM</st1:time><FONT= face=Arial color=black size=2><o:p></o:p> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none;= mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in= 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN= style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject: Setting Rates<o:p></o:p> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none;= mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in= 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> <FONT= color=black><o:p></o:p> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none;= mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in= 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">I was just= curious.<o:p></o:p> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none;= mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in= 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> <FONT= color=black><o:p></o:p> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none;= mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in= 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Is everyones tuning rates= reflect their "per hour" rate, or are they both different. = i.e., if you had a tuning rate of, let's say, $90, which may be= a two hour tuning, does that mean the hourly rate would be $45= for any other work you might do?  And if you go to a= clients home and all they want you to do is evaluate the piano,= which can take only about half an hour...<FONT= color=black><o:p></o:p> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none;= mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in= 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> <FONT= color=black><o:p></o:p> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none;= mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in= 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Just wondering what= everyone has to say. Thanks!<FONT= color=black><o:p></o:p> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none;= mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in= 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> Matthew= Todd Todd Piano Works Piano Tuner/Technician Tuning -= Repairing - Regulating <SPAN= style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt:= windowtext"><o:p></o:p> <P style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in;= BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in;= MARGIN-LEFT: 75.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP:= 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid= black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><FONT= face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR:= black">__________________________________________________ Do= You Yahoo!? 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