<HTML><HEAD></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> Your= back didn't hurt cuz you've only tuned one...;-]  = It's a cumulative thing...and "it had a really sweet= sound"?   Please.... David I.     ----- Original= message ----------------------------------------> From:= <<A= href="mailto:Piannaman@aol.com">Piannaman@aol.com</A>> To:= <<A= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>> Rec= eived: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:18:54 EST Subject: Re: square grand= tuning: fun Tom,= I've tuned one, and only one, and my experience was= similar to yours.  It had a really sweet sound, especially= when tuned to 438(prescribed on the plate in factory letters) to= a Broadwood's best temperament.  My back didn't hurt= either.  While the action wasn't up to modern standards(no= abs-graphite in there...:-), it worked okay for simple stuff.=  All in all, a rewarding experience. Glad to hear= you enoyed it, Dave Stahl In a message dated= 12/21/04 8:50:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, Tvak@aol.com writes:= <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;= BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"= TYPE="CITE">List Everything I know about tuning square= grands I learned from what I've read here on the list.=  Never having done it, and having a fondness for things= ancient, I read most of the posts about square grands.  And= from what I've read, it's something you would do only when faced= with a firing squad.  Why?  Because your back will be= sore for days afterwards from bending over the thing trying to= reach the tuning pins and hit the key at the same time.  = Still...I was willing to have a sore back just to have= the experience of working on one.   Well, for those= of you who haven't had the joy yet, let me say that it ain't= necessarily so.  I tuned my first square grand this week= and it was fun.  Yeah, I had to stretch a bit to reach the= tuning pins but I used my Schaff extension hammer and I really= had to stand (or stoop over) the piano only to reach the top= octave.  The other pins I could reach while sitting at the= bench.  (Stool, actually...) Maybe this was a small= square, and thus was easier to reach the tuning pins.  Then= again, maybe some people are just whiners.   Maybe= both! This square, a Hallet and Davis, was a charming= piano with a quaint sound.  There were no trichords, even= the steel treble strings were all bichords, so the tuning went= fast.  There were a few bass wound bichords that were= difficult (impossible) to tune a true unison on, but hey, I had= the exact same experience with a Steinway 45" vertical today.= Just thought I'd present a different viewpoint on the= experience. Tom Sivak Chicago PTG Associate= P.S. For the record, I'm 5'11", and am not built= like an orangutan: my arm length is proportional to my height!=  (Just thought I'd cut a couple of jokes in the= bud.)</BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY></HTML>