<DIV>Should I take the opportunity to rebush as well?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matthew "William R. Monroe" <pianotech@a440piano.net> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">David, It is a Shafer & Sons grand. Age...........? Respectfully, William R. Monroe ----- Original Message ----- From: "David's Email" <ILVEY@SBCGLOBAL.NET> To: "Pianotech" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses? > M... > > Is this a studio or grand? > > David I. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William R. Monroe" <PIANOTECH@A440PIANO.NET> > To: "Pianotech" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG> > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:40 PM > Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses? > > > > Matthew, > > > > As I said before, I'd repin in this situation. I would also opt for > > taking > > it to the shop - depending on what kind of drive time you would face. It > > certainly could be done in the home, but my experience is that these > > things > > often take more time than you expect, and further, especially as you are > > getting the hang of the procedure, it might be nice to not have the client > > looking over your shoulder. > > > > I'd check each flange, repinning to get each one at a consistent swing > > number. I know some techs will opt for obtaining a specific level of > > friction (6 grams, 7 grams, graduating, etc.). I don't know that either > > method is superior to the other provided you understand the process and > > what > > each is telling you - e.g. 7 swings on a bass hammer will have more > > friction > > at the pinning than 7 swings on a treble hammer - all other things being > > equal. > > > > What is the make of the piano BTW? Curiosity.......... > > > > Respectfully, > > William R. Monroe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matthew Todd" <TODDPIANOWORKS@YAHOO.COM> > > To: "Pianotech" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:36 PM > > Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses? > > > > > >> Some of the worst hammers there don't swing at all. About six of them > >> are > > that bad, and others have between one to two. There are some others that > > "seem" to be fine. I say "seem" because I tested their piano by playing > > it > > first, finding the really bad ones, then taking the action out and really > > examining them to pinpoint the problem. > >> > >> Matthew > >> "William R. Monroe" <PIANOTECH@A440PIANO.NET>wrote: > >> Hi Matthew, > >> > >> You wrote: "Could this just be related to swelling?" > >> > >> Only you can tell us. Is it humid there now? Does it get dry in the > >> winter, and then, are the hammer centers more free? You'll need to do > >> some > >> analyzing yourself and determine what is your best solution. If the > > hammers > >> are really seized up (less than a couple swings), I'd be comfortable > > saying > >> that it's not just humidity, and opt for repinning. Of course, if the > >> bushings are all full of nastys, maybe needs new bushings? > >> > >> Once you've determined the cause of the problem, then determine the > > solution > >> that works for you and your client. > >> > >> Respectfully, > >> William R. Monroe > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Matthew Todd" > >> To: "Pianotech" > >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:20 PM > >> Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses? > >> > >> > >> > I believe I will take the action home with me. These are hammer > >> > centers. > >> The hammers are very tight to move! Could this just be related to > > swelling? > >> > > >> > This is not a Steinway. I don't believe I have the Mannino, but I do > > have > >> a set I ordered from Schaff, and a good center pin punch. > >> > > >> > Matthew > >> > > >> > J Patrick Draine wrote: > >> > Matthew, > >> > If you are already skilled & speedy at repinning action parts, go for > >> > it. But it sounds like you aren't so ... bring the action to your > >> > shop. It will probably take you more than 4 hours (are these hammer > >> > centers? jack centers? damper lever centers??). > >> > Why are you repinning? Parts frozen up? Are treatment with Protec > >> > CPL, or sizing the bushings with an alcohol/water solution, viable > >> > alternative solutions? > >> > Is this a Steinway?? If so, it's likely you're dealing with > >> > verdigris, and repinning is seldom the correct remedy (parts > >> > replacement is best). > >> > Give us more details and we'll be able to give more precise advice. > >> > Do you have appropriate tools? The Mannino broaches, a quality center > >> > pin punch, etc? > >> > Patrick Draine > >> > > >> > On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Matthew Todd wrote: > >> > > >> > > I will be undergoing a repinning project on a client's grand. The > >> > > "G" Piano Works guide says it takes 4 hours. Is it appropiate to > >> > > do this project in the client's home, or do I need to take the > >> > > action with me and do it in the shop? If I take the action with > >> > > me, that brings up another question. 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