<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=US-ASCII"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C52AC2.2686D600"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple = style='tab-interval:.5in' id="role_body" bottomMargin=7 leftmargin=7 topmargin=7 rightMargin=7> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial = id="role_document"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One thing you = can do is cut a slot down from the top of the pin down to the <span = class=SpellE>becket</span> on your dummy pin.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>That = way, after the coil is wound, it will slide up and off the pin.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>While you still have to bend it = out slightly to get it onto the pin that’s in the piano, it’s a = bit easier.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  = </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span = style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p><st1:PersonName><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New = Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>David = Love</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=2 color=navy><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'><br> davidlovepianos@comcast.net </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original = Message-----<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span = style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Piannaman@aol.com<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 17, = 2005 7:00 AM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> pianotech@ptg.org<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: String = Replacing Annoyance / Action Problem</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Matthew,<o:p><= /o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Ditto to David's post on pre-coiling...I did a bunch of strings = yesterday(see previous post "all strung out") and I pre-coiled every string, = even the lowest A.  The core wire is a bit stiff down there, but it's = quite doable.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Pre-coiling saves a tremendous amount of time and effort.  The only hard parts are getting the becket out of the dummy on the thicker = gauges, then getting it back into the pin on the piano if you've bent the wire into a pretzel....almost nothing is unsalvageable, = though!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></f= ont><font color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>>>When I play a single note on my piano, the hammer strikes the string and then = very lazily does not rebound, but kind of floats between the string and rest rail.  I have to release the key, and then flick the hammer back to = it's rest position before I play the note again.  What do you think = could be the problem?  I have several ideas, but I want to be sure.  = You should of seen me during my tuning practice today!  Kind of annoying.>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Are the hammer return springs in the butt-groove??  If it's a Yamaha, = are the cord springs broken.  Learning to trouble shoot this stuff is = crucial to servicing piano.  Does the key fall back, leaving the hammer = hanging, or is there excess friction in the key?  Work front to back, = eliminating one thing at a time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Good luck,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Dave Stahl<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>In a message dated 3/17/05 6:10:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, davidlovepianos@comcast.net writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>If you mean on a string replacement you can avoid the "cranking" up = and<br> excessive slack associated with it by prewinding the string on a = dummy<br> pin and then transferring the coil.  That will keep enough tension = on<br> the string to keep it locked on the bridge pins.  <br> <br> When restringing, you should be able to coil the string onto the new = pin<br> enough so that you maintain tension on the string which will keep it = in<br> place at the bridge.  <br> <br> David Love<br> davidlovepianos@comcast.net <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] = On<br> Behalf Of tom driscoll<br> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:00 AM<br> To: Pianotech<br> Subject: Re: String Replacing Annoyance<br> <br> Subject: String Replacing Annoyance<br> What kind of ingenuity do you all use to keep the string from = popping<br> out between the bridge pins when you're cranking the tuning pins up?<br> Matthew Todd<br> <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives<br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> pianotech list info: = https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </blockquote> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = color=black face=Verdana><span = style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> <o:p></o= :p></span></font></p> </div> </div> </body> </html>