<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=930262918-10112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>*GRIN* Have you checked out the Millenium III action with all carbon parts?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=930262918-10112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>If I wasn't a technician, I swear I could sell Kawais. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=930262918-10112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>-ilex</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Cy Shuster<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:03 = AM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Unglued grand jack tender<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>One of them wouldn't grip at first, so probably = the reverse is true, too (Titebond preventing CA from gripping).  I used a = different bottle of CA, and that seemed to help, but the first bottle worked on = the others.  I guess I should have scraped both wood surfaces first; obviously there was some glue there before (it looked bare, though).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Those Kawai "black jacks" are looking better all = the time...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>--Cy--</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 10, = 2004 6:23 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Unglued grand = jack tender</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>"...wouldn't have a problem with a drop of CA to all the rest = to help solidify them for the time being..."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yeah, as long as the anticipated = follow-up work was jack replacement, rather than gluing with Titebond. I = should think that application of CA to the mating wood surfaces would pretty much = ruin a good Titebond glue surface.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ilvey@sbcglobal.net = href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">David Ilvedson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 09, = 2004 10:04 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Unglued grand = jack tender</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV align=left>I agree, a little titebond applied with a = toothpick or such and you have a good repair.  I wouldn't have a = problem with a drop of CA to all the rest to help solidify them for the = time being...</DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left>David I.</DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original = message ----------------------------------------><BR>From: Joe Garrett = <<A = href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</A>>= <BR>To: pianotech <<A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Received: = Tue, 9 Nov 2004 17:54:28 -0800<BR>Subject: Re: Unglued grand jack tender</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Cy asked: "<FONT = face="Times New Roman" size=3> why are those =<BR>jacks made = in two pieces to begin with?  Is it just so they can fail in =<BR>a = repairable way if regulation is off (too much aftertouch)?<FONT face=Arial size=2>"</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cy,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Being the maker of obsolete = action parts, I can say the Jack is the most difficult item to make. (just close = your eyes and try to imagine how that configuration is cut!) It's made that = way, because it's better, IMO</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, I hope you are prepared to = replace those jacks, as in fairly soon, as CA doesn't last very well in Stress applications. Please don't do that anymore. I don't care if it is = in some PTG manual.....it's a bad way to repair something like that! = Especially in a high end piano! Yikes!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><G></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best Regards,</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joe Garrett, R.P.T.<BR>Captain, = Tool Police<BR>Squares R I</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>