<HTML><HEAD></HEAD> <BODY>We've been over floating the pitch many times...if that's= what your talking about.  Check the archives...In terms of= stability, the less you change the tension the= better.   I float the pitch 3 cents either direction= except on concert instruments.  Most of my Churches= are not what I would consider concert= instruments.  Other instruments can certainly adjust= to that... I'm sure there are "tooners" who do just= about everything you can imagine.  They, generally have= short careers.   The idea that the piano is going to= continue to drop during the year is erroneous.  It= will go up and down.  Also keep in mind, I live in= the Bay Area of California and we have a pretty stable= climate.  If tuned at pitch occassionally they tend to= stay in the ballpark...if I lived elsewhere I'd probably be= installing a lot of damp-chasers. David= Ilvedson <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 3px solid;= PADDING-TOP: 5px"> <HR> Original message From: <ALPHA88X@AOL.COM> To:= <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG> Received: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:36:03= EST Subject: One more tuning question... Greetings,=          &n= bsp;  Is one way of doing business for some tuners to just= tune the piano "where it is"? In other words, they check the A= and if its close enough (or even if its not close to 440 ) just= tune the piano so that it is in tune with= itself???        &nbsp= ;   And even going further, If they have a regular= client, such as a church, to do the above mentioned thing,= cleaning up unisons (so as to do a "bang-up" tuning) and then,= on every 4th tuning or so pull it back up to A440 or alittle= above, so they are set up to repeat the whole process, thereby= saving themselves some time on intermittent tunings, yet leaving= the customer believing that they are receiving an A440 tuning= each and every time...when they aren't receiving a true tuning= (as far as proper pitch goes) each and every= time??         &n= bsp;   Not that I would do such a thing in my practice.= I do not condone it either. I think it is dishonest. My question= is do some tooners do this?? is it possible?=     Julia Reading,= PA </DIV></BODY></HTML>