<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>Please post if you don't mind. Or if you do mind, please send a = copy my way, if you don't mind. Thanks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Terry Farrell</DIV> <DIV> <SPAN id=__#Ath#SignaturePos__></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=wardprobst@cst.net href="mailto:wardprobst@cst.net">Dale = Probst</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 29, 2001 = 6:45 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: getting serious = about collecting</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=000084522-29062001><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Wim,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=000084522-29062001><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>I would like to see the contract. If you want to mail privately that's = okay too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=000084522-29062001><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Miss you in Reno,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=000084522-29062001><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Dale</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=000084522-29062001> <P><FONT size=2>Dale Probst, RPT<BR>Member, TEAM2001<BR>PTG Annual Convention<BR>Reno, NV --July 11-15, 2001<BR>email: <A = href="mailto:wardprobst@cst.net">wardprobst@cst.net</A><BR>(940)691-368= 2 voice<BR>(940) 691-6843 fax<BR>TEAM2001 website: <A target=_blank = href="http://www.ptg.org/conv.htm">http://www.ptg.org/conv.htm</A><BR><= BR> </FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf = Of </B>Wimblees@AOL.COM<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 29, 2001 5:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: getting = serious about collecting<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT = face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>In a message dated 6/29/01 2:23:24 PM Central Daylight Time, <BR>grandrestorations@yahoo.com writes: <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">You said to be prepared to take the (organ) back. = <BR>Could I rightfully do that?  It is and always was <BR>their property. =  I have performed major services to <BR>it, but at no time was it my = property.  I'm just not <BR>clear on how legal it would be to try to = repossess <BR>something that doesn't actually belong to me.  ??? <BR>Now, = if I haven't delivered it yet, that's another <BR>matter.  I believe = I could legally withhold delivery <BR>for non-payment (which I will not = hesitate to do in <BR>the future).  </FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial = color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></FONT><FONT = lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Perhaps it might not be = legal to put the organ, (piano) back on the truck <BR>after it is put in the house. = But I bet if you started doing that, unless the <BR>customer is a lawyer, = most people would not know you're not allowed to do it, <BR>and would not = want their instrument gone. Therefore, they will most likely <BR>come up = with a solution. Perhaps give you a post dated check, or whatever. <BR>The = point is, if you did something that will solve the problem, it's better <BR>than = just walking away without the money. <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 = face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT = lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"><BR>There are quite a number of technicians who I've = <BR>talked to that demand 1/3 payment upon receipt of the <BR>piano (or organ), = 1/3 payment during the process, and <BR>the final 1/3 either before or = upon delivery. <BR>Actually, that's my normal policy at this point. <BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 = face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">I collect half up front, = with the balance due upon completion. (see next <BR>paragraph). Obviously, in = your situation, having the customer come your shop <BR>was not an option. <BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial = color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"><BR>I did wonder, though, if a customer does stiff you = for <BR>payment of services rendered and the piano is in your = <BR>possession, as in the case of a major rebuild, would <BR>you ever have the right to = sell the piano as an effort <BR>to recover your investment?  Is that = something that <BR>anyone actually puts into a contract? =  </FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 = face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Up until the debacle I = mentioned, all I had on my rebuilding contract was <BR>that the balance was due upon completion. This customer's definition of <BR>"completion" and mine = were obviously different. As my lawyer once told me, <BR>any contract = between two people is legal. The problems come when the two <BR>people disagree on = the interpretation of the language of the contract. <BR><BR>Since then, I = have very implicit terms on the back side of the rebuilding <BR>contract. = If you, or anyone else is interested, I'll post them. Included are <BR>how and = when payments are to be made and what happens when payments are not = <BR>made, including storage fees and interest. <BR><BR>Willem </FONT><FONT = lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 = FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>