<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=562504814-06082004>Removing early plastic, be it celluloid, = pyrilin or Ivorine, is a bit of a crapshoot. Most of it will peel off with a flat = knife blade under it.  My favorites come off in one piece.  = Some will come off with a warm iron.  Steam does not seem to help when I = have tried that.  Heat the iron hot enough to warm the celluloid and not = melt it and it will peel off better.  </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=562504814-06082004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=562504814-06082004>Keyfronts (mostly celluloid), though, are = another thing.  Sometimes they will not come off for anything.  I have = had some I had to take off with a blowtorch by actually lighting the = celluloid on fire.  It burns really fast with LOTS of smoke.   Do it outside.  Some burn so fast it does not even char the key = wood.  Some burn too slow and will char the wood.  These I use the disk sander = and remove the key front that way.  Only burn them off if it does no damage.  Sometimes sanding them off will catch them afire.  It = most often not flames but a fast smolder...looks more like a cigarette ash burning.  This is not dangerous since it is not explosive, but it = REALLY stinks.  The smoke can't be a good thing to = breathe.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=562504814-06082004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN = class=562504814-06082004> <P><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>D.L. = Bullock    St. Louis<BR></STRONG></FONT><A = href="http://www.thepianoworld.com/"><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>www.thepianoworld.com</STRONG></FONT></A><FONT = face=Arial color=#000000><STRONG> </STRONG></FONT></FONT></P> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Put the worlds greatest = healer to work for WHATEVER health problem you may have----YOUR OWN IMMUNE = SYSTEM.  Your body is capable of healing EVERY disease if you give it the right fuel.  Visit </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2><A href="http://www.mannapages.com/dlbullock">http://www.mannapages.com/dl= bullock</A> to learn how to get the right fuel.  Also <A href="http://www.glycoscience.org/">www.glycoscience.org</A></FONT></DI= V></FONT></DIV></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=562504814-06082004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=562504814-06082004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Matthew Todd [mailto:pianotech88@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 05, = 2004 2:48 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Steinway parts<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV id=message> <DIV>So...do you all still remove the flammable celluloid with the old = iron and wet rag?  As well as plastic and pyralin?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matthew<BR><BR><B><I>Joe Garrett = <joegarrett@earthlink.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px = solid"><XMETA content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name="GENERATOR"> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David Nereson said: "<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Some attempts were made in the = past to simulate an ivory grain in<BR>plastic.  The most common was = probably "Ivorine," which has striations<BR>(faint bluish lines, spaced about = a millimeter apart) running the long way<BR>through the keytops -- = it's kinda hokey and looks not at all like ivory..."</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David, et al,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That is/was not "Ivorine"! That be = Celluloid! The flammable, stinky stuff, used in the first part of the 20th = Century. Ivorine is the good plastic that many of use replace keytops with. = The name "Ivorine" was the trade name used by Tuners Supply and is = essentially "Pyralin", which is an Industry name for a specific type of plastic. = It is sold by Schaff. Many pianos, even pre-1900 had Celluloid fronts with = Ivory tops. The better quality stuff lasts forever, and is the precursor = of the Pyralin. K?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best Regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joe Garrett, R.P.T.<BR>Captain, = Tool Police<BR>Squares R I</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>__________________________________________________<BR>Do You Yahoo!?<BR>Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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