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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks to all who answered my post!! I
followed through the troubleshooting process recommended by Keith, I think, and
finally ended up tilting piano, loosening treble strings, and using the epoxy
and soldering iron trick recommended by Ron and Joe G. Interesting to
watch the epoxy wick down into the tiny space around the pins. I used West
System epoxy and the ultra slow hardener I had left over from my wooden kayak
project. Thanks to Phil Bondi also for coming out and helping me decide
what to do. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It worked!!! Eliminated about 95% of
the false beats. Treble sounds pure and good.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also CA'd some loose tuning pins while it was
tipped. That also tightened most of them very effectively. Kind of
messy, though, as my CA bottle would drop a drop here and there where I didnt
want it. Never did quite get this technique perfected, but it did work
well. Results just dont look quite as neat as I would have liked. I
guess this is why they call this "learning the trade".</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Again, thanks and hope to meet some of you in
Dallas.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave Smith</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>SW FL</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=dsmith941@comcast.net href="mailto:dsmith941@comcast.net">Dave
Smith</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 09, 2003 9:09 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> False Beats in high treble after
stringing</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just finished stringing my Wing and Sons upright
piano project and have quite a few false beats in the last two octaves of
treble in single strings. My first restringing project. Phil Bondi
suggested that I ask on-list for advice. The treble bridge seemed (to me
anyway) to be in pretty good shape. About 1/3 of the bridge pins were
loose and I had removed and replaced after putting epoxy on the ends of the
pins. Also a little epoxy whereever there appeared to be any hints of
small cracks near the pins. Great results, except in certain
strings of the high treble. Other than there, the piano sounds
great. I don't see anything different about these strings or the
bridge from other strings, but I think I need to fix if possible. For
example, B6 center string has a beat of about 2 bps. Not as loud as a
real beat between two strings, but still THERE. Some higher
strings beat faster.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have experimented with seating the strings with
my copper rod, at each bridge pin. Also tried tapping each bridge pin in
a small bit. Doesnt seem to help, except in certain strings. I did
lightly sand and buff the v-bar before restringing, and think I have the right
adjustment on the pressure bar. I've been reading the archives and the
PTG CD articles re false beats, but the number of "hits" for this search term
is overwhelming.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can anyone offer me advice on what to do next to
reduce the false beats, short of unstringing and recapping bridge, etc?
I would appreciate your help!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Frustrated in Florida,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave Smith</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>SW FL</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>