<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To Ryan and Richard:  Not only is = BS not pure, it's not in short supply.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You see, I recognize BS by sight, sound = and smell. Those three senses should be enough without using = others. I have a patent on a BS filter that I  keep turned on high especially = when I read the list or am in a Doctors office.  BS can be contaminated = with political crap.  Even if it is non-partisan.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You can't eliminate BS by shooting the bull.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Carl Meyer Ptg assoc Santa Clara, Ca.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From: <A title=pianorye@yahoo.com href="mailto:pianorye@yahoo.com">Ryan = Sowers</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Friday, September 24, = 2004 11:13 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: Practicing on a = not so good piano: was RE: tax deductions?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How do you know? Do you have some unusual hobbies that you would = like to share with us? Carl Meyer <<A = href="mailto:cmpiano@comcast.net">cmpiano@comcast.net</A>> = wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px = solid"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4A257.02778BE0" rel=File-List> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; = mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; mso-paper-source: 0; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } P { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: = "Times New Roman"; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; = mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply; = mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-ansi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: = 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; = mso-bidi-font-family: Arial } SPAN.SpellE { mso-style-name: ""; mso-spl-e: yes } SPAN.GramE { mso-style-name: ""; mso-gram-e: yes } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> <DIV>I disagree. BS in not = pure.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Carl Meyer Ptg assoc Santa = Clara, Ca.</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From: <A title=davidlovepianos@comcast.net href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">David Love</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Friday, September 24, = 2004 4:53 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Practicing on a = not so good piano: was RE: tax deductions?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> I would = say that the idea that practicing on a not so great piano makes you a = better pianist is at least counterintuitive, at most, pure BS.  Much of learning and = refining piano skills has to do with developing your = sense of hearing and connecting what your hands do to what your ears = hear.  It is not, afterall, the same as learning to type. =  The poorer the piano, the = more you learn to not listen, to ignore what you hear and therefore = surrender control over what you are trying to accomplish musically.  Wondering whether the = mechanical problems you are encountering in executing a difficult passage = belong to your fingers or the action can o! nly serve to confuse the issue = more and force you into some bad habits with respect to relaxation that = will not serve your technique or tone production at all.   And as far as advocating = poorer pianos for our adult piano students to improve their = technique…well that would be counterproductive.  Remember, critical thinking is a privilege, not a = right.  You have to earn it. =  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net = <o:p></o:p></DIV> -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] = On Behalf Of Avery = Todd Sent: Friday, September 24, = 2004 2:51 PM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: tax deductions? <o:p> </o:p> Bull hockey! = Avery At 09:23 PM 9/23/04, you wrote: <o:p></o:p> Richard = said:   "I tell them that children and or adults will practice more and can get = much more from the practice with a good piano."   That is only = good to a certain extent.  After the kid, or adult progresses to a = certain level, it will be more beneficial to practice on a not so great piano.  It can do many great wonders to piano technique. Matthew Richard Oliver = Snelson <rsnelson0984@mchsi.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p> That's not what Ryan = said, Mr. Hechler. Too bad about your nerve, must be = <o:p></o:p> the same one you often = hit when your past rants about M.S.<o:p></o:p> I will do exactly what = Ryan said also. Finding a junk spinet or console in = <o:p></o:p> a nice home with an older = child or younger taking serious lessons on it will = <o:p></o:p> bring on a discussion = with the mother or father. I don't care if they ever <o:p></o:p> call me back to tune for = them. I tell them that children and or adults will = <o:p></o:p> practice more and can get = much more from the practice with a good piano. I = <o:p></o:p> have never had anyone get = mad at me, they say wow! No one has had the nerve = <o:p></o:p> to be honest with us = about the piano. After all someone gave it too us and <o:p></o:p> we really thought it = would be nice to have a better piano for our <o:p></o:p> son/daughter to play. = Note I didn't say "Grand." And I never follow the <o:p></o:p> above discussion with the fact that I might h! ave used pianos for sale.<o:p></o:p> Play your antique piano = all you want Mr. Hechler I'll keep on enjoying my <o:p></o:p> grand piano and having = the pleasure of going back to my customers house when = <o:p></o:p> they call to say they purchased a better piano.<o:p></o:p> Why should Ryan keep his = statement to himself? You never follow that advice. = <o:p></o:p> Now do you?<o:p></o:p> Richard Oliver Snelson<o:p></o:p> ----- Original Message = ----- <o:p></o:p> From: "Hechler Family" <o:p></o:p> To: "Pianotech" <o:p></o:p> Sent: Thursday, September = 23, 2004 3:12 PM<o:p></o:p> Subject: Re: tax deductions? <o:p></o:p> > Ryan,<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > Boy have you hit a = major nerve with me.<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > Based on your = comment, everyone should upgrade to a grand. Nearly 99 <o:p></o:p> > percent of my = business is the pianos you mentioned below. If which 99 = <o:p></o:p> > percent have no = space for a grand or don't want a grand. And to top things <o:p></o:p> > off, I own an = antique player piano which is a Story & Clark which I feel <o:p></o:p> > is a g! ood quality = instrument. Finally, I also rebuild antique pump organs = <o:p></o:p> > which are not upgradeable.<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > So please keep your = blanket statements to yourself.<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > P.S. I recently = acquired a player piano rebuilt job for a Gulbransen = <o:p></o:p> > piano.<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > Ryan Sowers wrote:<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > = <o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> >> Very frequently = I am encouraging people to upgrade their spinet, = <o:p></o:p> >> consoles, and = worn-out uprights. How could I do this in good faith if I <o:p></o:p> >> don't personally = value the instrument enough to warrant owning a good = <o:p></o:p> >> quality one.<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > -- = <o:p></o:p> > Duaine Hechler<o:p></o:p> > Piano, Player Piano, = Organ, Pump Organ<o:p></o:p> > Tuning, Servicing = & Rebuilding<o:p></o:p> > Associate Member of = the Piano Technicians Guild<o:p></o:p> > Reed Organ Society Member<o:p></o:p> > St. Louis, MO 63034<o:p></o:p> > (314) 838-5587<o:p></o:p> > dahechler@charter.net<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > = _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p><= /P> > pianot! ech list = info: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" = eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A><o:p>= </o:p> > <o:p></o:p> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></= FONT> pianotech list info: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" = eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A><o:p>= </o:p> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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