<html> <body> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">That's the problem. Most of the "newbies" don't even have a clue that they "should" be paying for their training! :-( I'm working with one now. I know. I shouldn't be for free. But it's so hard for me to say no to someone who wants to learn! Avery</blockquote>Aw Avery,                    Dem "newbies are a challenge. But a funny thing, I often learn from them.  If they are any good they will challenge you. ;-) . Shush Norma. The boy's are chatting.  I'll pay for that quip.. Regards Roger</body> </html>