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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dean,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well, you sort of answered your own question
there. Yes, voicing is the problem.....if you don't do it. It's not
really difficult, it just takes some effort and the will to do it.
<And> as Roger wrote, the strings need to be leveled, etc.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I seem to recall you've had the same complaints
about Kawais in the past, Dean. Not to sound like your mother or anything,
but, haven't you tried voicing them yet?! :-)
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>10 year old pianos that have never been
voiced? Eeeew. This is your chance to be a really big
hero (that is, if the owners are wanting a change).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Barbara Richmond</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=deanmay@pianorebuilders.com
href="mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com">Dean May</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:48
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: near impossible tuning</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dale
wrote: I really like the Kawai grands in general. The tone is far
more interesting than it other Japanese competitor & I can do wonderful
things with the voicing . </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I don’t get it. Most
all of the Kawai grands I tune (which aren’t that many) I don’t really care
much for. Since there aren’t any new Kawais being sold in this area most of
the ones I encounter are 10 plus years old of the KG variety, a couple of GS,
one GS-70. I don’t like the sustain. With the sustain pedal on when playing an
arpeggio the sound quickly fades into white noise and one cannot discern what
scale was just played. I’ve done some experimenting even, hitting individual
notes across the scale with an f blow and I get about a second of tone before
there is only noise.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">These are pianos with
original hammers that have probably never had a needle stuck in them. Is this
a hammer/voicing problem?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Dean May</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy><SPAN
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cell 812.239.3359</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">PianoRebuilders.com
812.235.5272</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Terre Haute</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy">IN</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN
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style="COLOR: navy">47802</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>Erwinspiano@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Friday, March 03,
2006</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">10:18
AM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: near impossible
tuning</SPAN></FONT></P>
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Dittos Roger</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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Ed Normally I find Kawai a very stable piano. I tuned a Kg-2 the
other day & I had not tuned it for 3 years. Except for being 6
cents flat, enough for a pitch raise, it was in solidly in tune with itself
& I wondered why I was there. It is also an easy piano to
tune.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> I
really like the Kawai grands in general. The tone is far more interesting than
it other Japanese competitor & I can do wonderful things with the voicing
. However on some of the grands & verticals a like have pins do
not render well.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Ed I don't get it & would like to know this is only an isolated incident
as I currently have a client looking to buy one of the same
models</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Dale</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">After lifting,
leveling, and fitting, the power, sustain, and voicing will
improve.</SPAN></FONT></U></I></EM><I><U><FONT face=Arial color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><BR><EM><I><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">String lifting is a skill just
like tuning, I would hardly call it
indiscriminate.</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><BR><BR><EM><I><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards
Roger</SPAN></FONT></I></EM></SPAN></FONT></U></I></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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