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<DIV>In a message dated 3/8/2006 8:57:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
bjsilva001@comcast.net writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG> Because I was very long time client Danny has
been receptive to my request for raising the tension in this area on
many sets but not with any enthusiasm & this is why I went to
the Arledge strings & that's OK with him</STRONG>.
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size=2>However, GC alters the string tension in the high range (to be
lower) and I was suspicious this might contribute to my distaste for the
tone. From what Danny at GC told me, Steinway continues the high tension in the
L.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG> Ok</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>.</STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>So, in another attempt I just ordered some Mapes, which I
assumed (perhaps wrongly!) would follow the default Steinway tensions. I am
hoping to have a better chance at reproducing that relatively terrific sound
from the L I ran across, which I have just received permission to examine
next Tuesday. I'll let you know what I turn up if you're
interested.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG> Just measure the i.ds & o.d.s from the original
set of strings that you like the sound of and ask Jim Arledge to make them &
he will</STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV>As for the piano in question, the hammers are fairly old, maybe even
originals (from 1925). Nice felt, old-ish but better quality than what comes
on Steinways now. I personally don't have a problem with the tone of notes
27-29, in fact the "original" strings on this piano had an acceptable
transition from A25-B27 - it was just the Bb26 that had a bad sound. I
actually just heard a new model O on Monday, which also suffered a similar
sound on Bb26, but A25 and below were fairly nice.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV> <STRONG> German O?</STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV>If you have any voicing advice I would really love to hear it! I am
competent at superficial voicing, but not much more. I'm looking for a less
punchy attack and a warmer-full-bodied tone. I tried a bit of needling on the
shoulders, which improved the tone a bit, but I'm afraid of over-voicing so I
didn't do too much.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><STRONG> John, I'm still unclear as to what hammers your using but in
any case I'll say there usually isn't anything wrong with recent Steinway
Hammers except operator errors or possibly to hard from the factory.
Yup some are to hard but usually the problem is they need to be brought up which
works in your favor. IMO.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG> But in general all 26 note bass pianos,
<FONT size=4><U>without </U></FONT>wrapped strings on the tenor bridge,
will suffer from low tensions in the note 27 -30ish range & because of
this the sound will always suffer if the hammers is too hard . Hammers
must be flexible enough to prevent tonal distortions from being
prevalent.. I you are working with original hammers they were very light
which is another clue. The hammers can not be to heavy whatever you
use.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG> As for the recent and always maligned factory Steinway
hammer, in general I have had very good sets lately. However I always single
needle test some the hammers to check the felt density. If too
hard I send them back. But the density & weight has been quite good lately
& tone after shaping is in the ball park with less lacquer required in some
cases & some areas. I've been getting the Classic
Steinway sound I want with these hammers. The American CO.18
lb. Felt is really nice & they seem to be on a roll. JMO</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG> Dale</STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks!</DIV>
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<DIV>- John</DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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