<html><body> <DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Joe,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I must be a rare person then because I have an ear for music and tone. I play both drums and piano. :)  In fact, I taught myself drums partially and learned from a few friends in college.  I wil say that tuning has given me an even better more kean ear and also has awakened my hearing in a way that makes playing more enjoyable.  The only disatisfaction I have in our church piano . It is sightly off, but anoyes me when our pianist plays in the bass section.  I guess it takes tuning to force a person to use their aural skills in a more proficient manner.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Marshall</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Joe And Penny Goss" <imatunr@srvinet.com> <BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1528" name=GENERATOR> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Dave,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just becuase they teach does not mean that they have an ear.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The most inept ear wise usually are found to be drummers and piano players. Unless they also sing or play an instrument that must tune, they never have to develope their ear.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Exclude tymp players who must tune.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com/">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=piannaman@aol.com href="mailto:piannaman@aol.com">piannaman@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 10, 2006 8:36 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Teacher's Advice</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana'"> <DIV> <DIV> This is an old topic, but it resurfaces every once in a while.</DIV><BR> <STYLE>.AOLPlainTextBody { FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff } .AOLPlainTextBody PRE { FONT-SIZE: 9pt } .AOLInlineAttachment { MARGIN: 10px } .AOLAttachmentHeader { BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e9eaeb 2px solid } .AOLAttachmentHeader .Title { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; BACKGROUND: #e9eaeb; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; FONT: bold 11px Tahoma; COLOR: #666666; PADDING-TOP: 3px } .AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldLabel { PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 9px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; FONT: bold 11px Tahoma; COLOR: #666666; PADDING-TOP: 1px } .AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldValue { FONT: 11px Tahoma; COLOR: #333333 } </STYLE> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_2_0f7621cc-03d6-4106-9e5c-5dbb5406026a>I have a client who bought a Kawai Petite grand with a player system in it. I tuned it about a year ago--and replaced a hammer shank broken by the movers, who had removed the action.<BR><BR>I sent a postcard and followed up with a phone call 6 months later, and they said the piano didn't need tuning. Last week, a year later, I knew I was going to be in their neighborhood with time for an appointment, so I called to see if they wanted me to come out. The woman said yes, so we scheduled a time and day.<BR><BR>The day before the job, I got a call from the husband, who informed me that "the teacher thinks only a few notes are out of tune. She says that sometimes tuners will come out to touch up the piano for a lesser fee than a regular tuning."<BR><BR>I held my tongue, but guaranteed him, based on the state of the piano at the previous appointment, that not only would it need tuning, but a fair-sized pitch adjustment! was likely. He's quite a nice guy, and he accepted my explanation, but I was a bit miffed at the teacher.<BR><BR>Sure enough, the piano was 10 cents flat and some unisons had gone very out of tune. I played a few notes, and he heard the beating unisons and octaves. I adjusted the pitch and tuned it. I made it clear that it should be done again in 6 months. <BR><BR>How do YOU feel about teachers (who probably have their pianos tuned every 5 years) who offer this kind of advice? I get a bit peeved.<BR><BR>Just because someone knows how to "operate" a piece of equipment doesn't mean they have a clue as to how it operates or whether it needs service.<BR><BR>Whose opinion would you trust if asking about servicing a car, your mechanic's or your taxi driver's?<BR><BR><BR> <DIV>Dave Stahl</DIV> <DIV>Dave Stahl Piano Service</DIV> <DIV>650-224-3560</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://dstahlpiano.net/" target=_blank>Dstahlpiano.net</A></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <P> <HR> <P></P>_______________________________________________<BR>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>