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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hi Allen and all</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Now maybe an old dog can learn a trick or two. What kid of
plugs are you using. I just might give them a shot. I have heard other tuners
talk about them but never felt a need. But then, I never felt a need for
hearing aids either until I got them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The big, important thing that I wanted to be
impressed on our fellow technicians is they need to get there hearing checked
annually and they shouldn't be afraid of the outcome.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thank you Alan and sorry for the
misunderstanding.</FONT> <FONT face=Arial>As I have said, if I were younger
and intended to spend more time tuning and especially in the conditions some
have mentioned. I would probably be thinking about and ETD. I have a number of
good friends who are excellent aural tuners that have bought ETDs and are very
excited about them. Who knows, maybe my wife will buy me one for my 70th next
year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Enjoy your incredible business.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Ron May</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tune4u@earthlink.net href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net">Alan
Barnard</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:30
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: MY ETD IS MADE BY SIEMENS--
IT'S CALLED A HEARING AID</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>Wow. We are
miscommunication badly here. Let me 'splain.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>I wasn't offended,
though perhaps I was a little put off by these words, which still seem (on the
face thereof) kind of "challenging."</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>To whit: "I
am a 69 year old Aural tuner who sees absolutely no benefit in ever owning
Tunelab or whatever. I am a concert tuner and to this day will put my tuning
up against any of you. Among my customers are 4 PhD's in piano
performance, one master in piano performance, a large number of piano teachers
etc.etc.etc. Oh Yeah---I am an rpt."</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>If I read an
attitude in that which you did not intend, then I heartily apologize. As I
said, I wasn't looking for a fight. (Basically I believe in making love, not
war. But in the early days I was conflicted in this, so I got married in order
to experience both.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>Your Q: "How do
you hear the piano when you have plugs in your ears?"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>My A: Beats me (no
pun intended), but it works amazingly. I use them whenever I'm working on a
bright (and/or busy, clangy, nasty) treble, especially in a lively acoustic
environment. I also use them when ambient noise is a problem, i.e.,
yesterday while tuning aurally in a small church--they had just varnished some
woodwork so they had all the ceiling fans on full throttle and all windows
opened. A giant machine was working about 200 ft away on a hillside,
stuffing cut trees and limbs (looked like up to about 8 inches in
diameter) into a giant chipper/shredder ... oog. In go the plugs. The
screeching, whirling, and wailing disappeared (both the machine's and my
own) and I was able to hear the gentle roll of happily tempered
fifths. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>As to the Steinway
reference, I might mention three points.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>1. A friend of
mine tuned Steinway D's for a major symphony orchestra, and many concert
artists for more than two decades--using, for the past umptiump years, an
Acutuner.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>2. Direct quote
from a Steinway master tech (as quoted in a Steinway class at the California
State Convention 2005): "Crown shrown! Pianos under tension do not need to
exhibit any measurable crown." (I wrote it down when he said it.) Certainly a
debatable point.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>3. Since when have
techs swallowed the Steinway line without questioning it? I'm NOT trashing
S&S or their pianos -- I love 'em (mostly), they are classics -- just
their cultivated, traditional, and wholly snooty attitude and their
hard-to-understand, stuck-on-old-ideas view toward technology and
innovation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>I hope I was
neither "hollering" nor "being upset" with you (or anyone else, for that
matter). If it seemed so, I'm sorry.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>You're Q: "There
is maybe one thing you ETDers can help me with. Just about every week or two I
get a call from someone in the area who has just had their piano tuned and are
very unhappy with the extreme last octave in the bass. This isn't just one
tuner that I run into. Invariably the last octave is so far sharp it is
dissonant. Any kid with a years lessons would hear it. There is no way any
tuner has listened to this. Is there something about ETDs that don't hear that
last octave?"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial size=3>Answer: Acutuner,
Tunelab, Cybertuner, and Verituner will all give you beautiful curves, from A0
to C88. The old Yamaha PT 100's did give a bass that most American ears found
a little shallow, so tuners who used them tuned the base aurally (at least I
did), but they would not sound as bad as your example, by any means. I suspect
your area tuner is using a Peterson or some other older technology or hasn't,
otherwise, a clue to what he or she is doing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279204016-18032006><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=3>Alan R. Barnard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=3>Salem, MO</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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