<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Ed,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good point.  I may try it, but it's the first four notes of the section are a problem.  In my effort to really find out what the problem is, I will try the pitch-locks first, see what the results are, pull them out, and then try out the brass half round or half oval and see what the results are of that, etc.  THEN, try filing.  It will be interesting to see what works and what doesn't.   As I said, my customers wish is that I don't have to use an "add on".  I will try to fulfill that wish, but will do what ever is needed--and then he can live with it.  :-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks to everyone, Mark & Joe, for the information you've passed on to me.  With all the information and the practicing I've done, I feel like I can go in and find out what the heck is happening with this piano.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Barbara Richmond, RPT</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ed440@mindspring.com href="mailto:ed440@mindspring.com">ed440@mindspring.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:51 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fw: v-bar/capo repair (filing compared)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Barbara-</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Looking at the photo, it seems to me that the first capo bar unison is spaced too far to the left. The damper spacing is off, the space between the next unison is larger than the other spaces, and, as you noted, the shaped bearing surface is getting a little irregular.  What about just moving the strings a tiny bit to the right and testing  the sound, for a start?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ed Sutton<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Barbara Richmond <PIANO57@INSIGHTBB.COM><BR>Sent: Mar 21, 2006 7:05 PM <BR>To: Pianotech <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Subject: Fw: v-bar/capo repair (filing compared) <BR><BR></DIV><ZZZHTML><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><ZZZMETA content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name="GENERATOR"> <STYLE></STYLE> </ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY bgColor="#ffffff"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Back to my picture of the Seiler capo/v-bar.  I'm sorry if I'm sounding like a broken record, but I would like to hear of your filing experience.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've never been one to look much at the capo/v-bar on grands, so I'm not familiar with the different "styles" out there.  This Seiler is a different design than Steinway.  I took at look at a Kawai GS-40 I worked on last week and it has the same set-up or one very similar to the Seiler.  Am I correct in assuming that the gray "hump" is the only hardened part?  I see the lighter & what looks like a flat surface from which the gray part protrudes.  It seems odd to see two such different surfaces like that--well, I guess strange, compared to the sort of all-in-one Steinway set up.   </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the picture, the area where the first string is located doesn't look very impressive to me (uneven, less gray, more light colored surface), which I find troubling.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In general, it seems to me to get a good v-shape, I would need to grind off the edge of the light colored surface (is there potential harm in doing that?)--or do you just work with the small gray surface and leave the light colored surface alone?  It seems like it would be difficult to only work on the gray--but I could be mistaken since I haven't gotten my grimy little hands on it yet.    </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I had a go at some capo filing yesterday (on a different piano),  just to get some practice.  Well, that certainly is work!   </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One reason I am exploring this avenue, is my customer is rather picky and would prefer it if I didn't use "add-ons"</FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>(like pitch-locks--I practiced using those yesterday, too).  I would be more inclined to use the brass half round or half oval (of which I now have a nice selection), because IMO, it would look less like--"see, there's a problem here!"   I will end up doing whatever it takes, but I would like him to be pleased, if possible.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Barbara Richmond, RPT</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>near Peoria, IL</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></ZZZBODY></ZZZHTML></BODY></HTML>