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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the info on the tumbler. A reason for
putting used agraffes back in order is that the beveled seat is already
partially crushed. With new agraffes you can do quite a bit of aligning. Once
they've been on there is not as much freedom to align them. A problem I've found
with new ones is the height. Raising (usually) the string height in the agraffe
section a mm or 2. A counter bore like Pianotech sells solves this problem but
gets rid of the bevel. Not good IMO. I re-ground one to match the
bevel.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=absolutepiano@comcast.net
href="mailto:absolutepiano@comcast.net">Absolute Piano</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Agraffes-Jude's reply</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry for the late response. Some days I get so
caught up in the shop I don't get to catch up with all the interesting stuff
going on here. Anyway... </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Jude,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Regarding the tumbler, I guess it's
safe to say you are not keeping them in order, or are you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Fenton</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I've been back and forth as far as the order is concerned. When I first
started restoring agraffes I kept them in order, but when I started using
the tumbler I abandoned the order figuring that when I installed new ones they
were out of order anyway. I might try thraeding them in order on a wier and
then tumbling. If the effort to keep order doesn't take more time than
working from scratch, it'll be worth it.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Jude,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>I've never heard of Dri-Shine. What is it? where do
you get it? ect.?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>As for the "Tumbler"....Yikes! Not a good way to go,
IMO. That will screw up the threads.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I love your process Joe. I'll have to give it a try. Dri-shine III
is the most mild medium available for the tumbler and it
is made of corn husks. I'm pretty sure that it causes no damage to the
threads. In fact I have to prep the agraffes in the blasting cabinet first
because the tumbler will not even remove lacquer and it takes 70 hours in the
tumbler to reach a mirror polish. If I find proof that it does I will
abondon this method of polishing agraffe and probably cry.The great thing
about the tumbler is that it cleans every part of every screw, hinge etc even
inside the slots, threads and holes. I gather all my hardware and toss it in
and forget about it for three days and that beats the hours I've spent at the
buffing wheel. I ordered it through MSC but I have a catalog for the actual
maker if you're intrigued.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Bechstein's are fun, aren't they, with the thick
agraffes up in the treble?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Paul</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>Oh yeah, they're a treat! What a great agraffe though with that hardened
steel rod. I found that you have to go in order and get them perfectly
installed before you move on to the next one. I also had much more difficulty
getting them locked down in the right position. I definitely should have kept
this set in order and with the original shims which are thinner than anything
available through Scaff or Pianotek.</DIV>
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<DIV>By the way are there any other options for new agraffes for other makes.
If you're going to mess around with this you're eventually gonna be caught
with a broken agraffe. I broke one on a Knabe last year and boy was
that a pain. I went fishing through piano junkyards all over town
pulling off samples. Most of these pianos were on on their sides, crunched
together. Fun. There are may variations of threads, height and unison
spacing.<BR></DIV></DIV></FONT>
<DIV>Jude Reveley, RPT<BR>Absolute Piano Restoration, LLC<BR>Boston,
Massachusetts</DIV>
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