<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none" bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My only experience with the heat-shrink Teflon is on front rail key pins. My suggestion to use it on the damper lift rod was speculative only. I would think putting it on the whole length would be the easiest. If it will slide on, somehow.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joseph Alkana RPT</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ilvey@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">David Ilvedson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:29 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Damper squeak</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><BR>You'd have to take the added thickness of the pin in to consideration when bushing...it lasts huh?   Interesting idea...don't think I've ever heard of it before...?<BR>How do you use it with the dampers?  On the spoons?  Missed that...on the lifter rod?   How do you apply it?  In pieces where the levers hit?<BR><BR>David Ilvedson, RPT<BR>Pacifica, California<BR><BR><BR><BR> <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 3px solid; PADDING-TOP: 5px"> <HR> Original message<BR>From: "Joseph Alkana" <JOSEPHSPIANO@COMCAST.NET><BR>To: "Pianotech List" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Received: 4/5/2006 6:37:35 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Damper squeak<BR><BR> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jack, I don't know the source, but it may be available thru electronics supply places. Ed McMurrrow gets his supply by the giant box load. I remember asking him one time...never got an answer. Guess some research is in order. They are clear in color, by the way. Size is just a little bigger than a front keypin to start.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Basically you put it on like you do any shrink wrap. Apply high heat like a propane torch to shrink.  Only difference is this stuff is Teflon.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oh, yes, for front key pins, you need to make sure they're all at the same height. Then cut a length of Teflon tubing so that the top will almost come together over the top of the key pin. Duplicate 87 more times. (That will keep the bushing from coming in contact with the edge of the Teflon sleeve.) Slicker than snot on a doorknob!</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joseph Alkana RPT</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=JackHouweling@dccnet.com href="mailto:JackHouweling@dccnet.com">Jack Houweling</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:04 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fw: Damper squeak</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Hi Joseph,</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Could you tell me more about heat-shrink Teflon?  Where do you get it? How do you apply it?</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Thanks,</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Jack Houweling</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">---- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=josephspiano@comcast.net href="mailto:josephspiano@comcast.net">Joseph Alkana</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:04 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Damper squeak</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just a thought. Since the rod is evidently corroding to some degree, causing the stickiness and squeaking , could heat-shrink Teflon be used  on the rod to permanently solve this problem? I know that Ed McMurrow uses it on front rail keypins with great success.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Joseph Alkana RPT</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>