<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1543" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=2>  <FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Hi Philippe,</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>I believe, in this case, the word decadent, is used as a "colloquialism" (<EM>expression familiere).</EM></DIV> <DIV>In other words, very rich, beautiful, over the top, etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bob</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=2>R.Moffatt & Sons Piano<BR>2323 Lincoln Drive S.W.<BR>Calgary, Alberta ,  Canada T3E 5G4<BR>Phone. 403.243.0385<BR><A href="http://www.moffattpianos.com">www.moffattpianos.com</A><BR>Fax.     403.243.6821<BR>email:   <A href="mailto:moffatt5@telus.net">moffatt5@telus.net</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=2> </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=phil.errembault@skynet.be href="mailto:phil.errembault@skynet.be">Philippe Errembault</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:52 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Decadent piano design (was : piano, piano-forte,forte-piano ...)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Bob, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have taken a look on this Cantos Museum website, and found the following sentence in the virtual gallery, in the desciption for "Sebastian Erard, Grand piano" : "The French were known for their decadent piano designs"... Does anyone have an idea why it is so ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Philippe Errembault</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=moffatt5@telus.net href="mailto:moffatt5@telus.net">R.Moffatt & Sons Piano</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:04 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: piano, piano-forte,forte-piano : Terminology - What's your opinion ?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hello Philippe,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>According to the keepers of the Cantos museum, one of them Bill Garlick, the instrument  by Christoferi was originally given the name <U>gravicembalo col piano e forte</U>, Harpsichord with loud and soft, later called “Forte Piano”. (Working examples of these early instruments can be seen and <U>heard</U> at Calgary’s Cantos Music Foundation) Take a look.</DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=2><A href="http://www.cantos.ca"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>www.cantos.ca</FONT></A> </FONT></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 200%"><SPAN lang=EN-CA><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT face="Arial Narrow">Best,  Bob</FONT></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 200%"><SPAN lang=EN-CA><FONT size=2><FONT face="Arial Narrow">R.Moffatt & Sons,  2323 Lincoln Drive S.W. Calgary, Alberta ,  Canada T3E 5G4<BR>Phone. 403.243.0385<BR><A href="http://www.moffattpianos.com">www.moffattpianos.com</A><BR>Fax.     403.243.6821<BR>email:   <A href="mailto:moffatt5@telus.net">moffatt5@telus.net</A></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 200%"><SPAN lang=EN-CA><FONT size=2><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><O:P><A href="mailto:moffatt5@telus.net"></A></O:P></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=phil.errembault@skynet.be href="mailto:phil.errembault@skynet.be">Philippe Errembault</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:59 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> piano, piano-forte, forte-piano : Terminology - What's your opinion ?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just consulting the french wikipedia, I discovered that piano-forte is the original name of the instrument invented by Cristophori near 1700, and it was in a harpsichord like frame, while forte-piano was built around 60 years later by Friederici, on a square frame like a clavichord. This is not matching with what I find on the english wikipedia...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What's your opinios about that ? what instrument should be called what ? Or do you think the names are just not the seme between both langagues ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Philippe Errembault</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>