<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV> <DIV>Okay, good, makes sense to me.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think one of the things coloring my thoughts was the fact that I am sometimes up to 2 1/2 hours between customer and shop (more often 1/2 to 1 hour). </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I use a lot of JB Weld 5-minute stuff, wonderfully handy for many things, but it would be hard to use in the application you show--too gooey and runny.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Excuse me, now, my horse needs feeding and I'm rearranging the saddlebags so my tilter will fit in better.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Alan Barnard</DIV> <DIV>Salem, Missouri</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 04/25/2006 7:11:49 AM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Action Center Wood Repairs</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><EM>I didn't understand the last comment: "... <FONT face=Arial>although not [a fix] to do in a customer's home."</FONT></EM></DIV> <DIV><EM><FONT face=Arial></FONT></EM> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>It takes a pretty special set of circumstances for me to mix epoxy in a customer's home. I just don't do it, unless there is no other reasonable option. Carpet + epoxy = disaster! And, the epoxy takes a couple hours to harden, but even then doesn't get full strength until after an overnight cure. I also had to drill the bushing holes out on the drill press. The bushing felt needs to dry for a while - I like to just let it dry overnight. (I actually bushed the holes a couple hours after I applied the epoxy.) So there are several reasons why this particular repair is best done in the shop.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Now I know one could use JB Weld or some other fast-setting putty-like epoxy. It may work just fine. I do know that sometimes it can be difficult to get a good bond when applying that type of epoxy to small and/or hard-to-reach places. And in this case, the repair area is a high stress area. I just sleep much better when I use the two-step epoxy bonding process. I've seen joints fail when using only thick epoxy. One can bond a cleat to a boat deck with the two-step method with no other mechanical attachements and tie the anchor line to it and leave it out in a hurricane - I guarantee that if anything fails, it will be the line, the anchor, or the deck will rip away, but the cleat-to-deck joint won't fail!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><EM>"....and all this without so many of our modern tools and materials."</EM></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Exactly! No epoxy, only hide glue. Hide glue cleans up with water and dries in very short time. I use hide glue. I love hide glue. In some applications however, epoxy has distinct advantages.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Besided, if that were not the case, Epoxy Man would be lonely - just like the Maytag repair man!   ;-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Nice work, Terry.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I didn't understand the last comment: "... <FONT face=Arial>although not [a fix] to do in a customer's home."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Why do you feel that way? I think sometimes we are called upon to do this sort of thing as a kind of high art form. I brings to mind the 19th and early 20th century tuners who packed their whole "shop" in a couple of saddle bags and made big circuits throughout rural America. They must, of necessity, have become very clever at repairing, remanufacturing, replicating, and adapting parts -- and all this without so many of our modern tools and materials.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Alan Barnard</DIV> <DIV>Salem, Missouri</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>