<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR><o:SmartTagType name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=blue link=blue bgColor=white> <DIV> "I’ve heard somewhere that hybrids do not get as good of mileage with mostly highway driving, which is typically what I do. Have you noticed anything like that, say, on a long road trip?"   It's true that the Prius mileage is highest under 50 mph - it can be especially good in the 30 to 40 mph range (that's where I can squeeze 80 - 100 mpg out of it with some fancy footwork). I have not taken mine on a long trip yet, so I have not burned a whole tank of gas on the freeway and then checked the actual mileage, but the computer mileage readout (real time) checks out to be within one or two mpg of actual and it suggests that I get about 50 mpg at 65 mph.   I'm going to sell one of our cars (not the Prius) and build an electric motorcycle.   Terry Farrell</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><o:p> </o:p></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> I’ve heard somewhere that hybrids do not get as good of mileage with mostly highway driving, which is typically what I do. Have you noticed anything like that, say, on a long road trip?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Mine is a 1999 Honda Accord with 221,000 miles. I’m hoping for 300K before I retire it. A normal year sees anywhere from 24K to 30K miles. I have to transport two small boys, so I need something that will comfortably seat them along with car seats, plus carry my trunk-full of tools. I’d need to eyeball the Prius to see if it would do all that. I generally like the idea of reducing emissions (for human health-not sure yet about any negative effect on the planet), but it’s also a big difference in price right now between gas-burners and hybrids. I wish we’d get off our buns and drill for oil in Anwar or in my back yard if there’s oil here. At the same time, also develop alternative energy at a reasonable cost so we can virtually eliminate our dependence on oil. Sounds good, don’t know if it’s possible. Time will tell.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Other cars I’d consider looking at are the Pontiac Vibe (30/36 MPG), and the Mazda 3 5-door (26/32 MPG). If I remember correctly, there’s a Volkswagen station wagon with a diesel engine that gets mileage in the 40’s, but I’m not so sure how stable the price of diesel is – would have to check that first.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Lots of decisions, eh? ;-)<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> John Formsma<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </DIV> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Farrell Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 5:06 AM To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName> Subject: Re: Prius for Piano Tech?<o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> Hi Fenton,<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> I made the switch from a '92 Lincoln Town Car to an '06 Prius. It was fairly painless. I'm 6-foot and fit in the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lincoln</st1:place></st1:City> easier, but 54 mpg (since new - 4-month average) beats 17 mpg any day. I have already transported a couple grand actions in the Prius. I don't typically carry more than four or five boxes of tools, so I was able to simply set the actions directly on the bottom of the trunk area with the rear seats folded down. The Prius is actually a mid-sized car and there is quite a bit of room in there - more than meets the eye from the outside. If you carry a mountain of tools all the time, you might need to do some sort of other arranging - there is a fair bit of height back there, so yes, an action could go on top of a layer of tool boxes. My 140 lb. Great Dane fits quite easily back there.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> I am very happy with my Prius. If you've ever enjoyed driving a stick-shift, you will especially enjoy driving a Prius. It is fully automatic of course, but if one is willing, there are all sorts of gas-pedal games one can play to increase mileage significantly. Under no/low-traffic conditions, where you can drive any speed you want, it is not difficult to coax 80 to 100 mpg out of the little rascal! The car is FUN to drive! Our lifetime 54 mpg average represents a combination of urban and freeway driving - mostly during times when traffic flow dictates our speed. I can easily imagine that if you do not play any high-fuel-efficiency games with the gas pedal and drive with a lead foot (gotta beat that other car to the traffic light!) you might average something closer to 45 mpg - maybe less, I don't know.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Folks will point out that "it will take you 15 years to recoup the investment" in the extra cost of the Prius via fuel savings. The argument is that the Prius costs $25K and a Corolla (or some similar non-hybrid car costs $15K or whatever). First, I'll be getting a $3K tax rebate, so my Prius costs $22K. Second, our other car is a '03 Saturn. We paid $18K for the Saturn - I suppose an '06 Saturn might be more like $19K or $20K. IMHO, the Prius is much more of a high quality car than the Saturn. It also has more safety features like side air bags and vehicle stability control. More car, way more MPG (Saturn only gets 25 mpg), more safety, and IMHO - as soon as the first bomb drops on Tehran (or another Katrina or whatever) and gasoline shoots up to $5+/gallon - a quicker-than-you-think investment payback via fuel savings, AND way less emissions (if you have a conscience) "89 percent fewer smog-forming emissions than the average new car, exceeding the standards for a Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle". For me, the decision was a no-brainer.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> YMMV<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Terry Farrell <o:p></o:p></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> The Volvo wagon has 165K and is eating too much money between gas and maintenance. BTW, you better be charging at least as much as your mechanic. I'm researching my next vehicle and wondering if a Toyota Prius could actually work. Naturally, critical is the ability to transport a grand or upright action. I would be so grateful for any techs using one to let me know how they like it, can you fit an action in there on top of your tools?  I've looked in them and they seem pretty big, not like my Volvo wagon. But, I am willing to scale down some and I sure could dig 45 MPG. Or, any other vehicles that get high mileage, second choice for me right now is a Subaru Outback, great car but more dough and only mid 20's MPG.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Fenton Murray, RPT <A href="http://www.MurraysPianoTuning.com">www.MurraysPianoTuning.com</A><o:p></o:p></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>