<HTML><HEAD> <META charset=US-ASCII http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"> <DIV> <DIV>Greetings, </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>         In the upper two octaves you can check if the 5ths are alittle less than clean. This always helps me. I tune the top octave by checking 5ths and playing arpeggios.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Julia Gottshall</DIV> <DIV>Reading. PA </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 5/4/2006 7:47:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, rfinley@rcn.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am learning to tune the piano by ear and have a question about tuning octaves in the high treble and performing the tests on them. Lower down the piano and for an octave or two above the temperament octave I use a 3rd-10th test to check whether the beat rate of the 10th is the same as or slightly faster than the 3rd, to provide an octave that is correctly stretched. When I go higher in pitch I use a 3rd-17th test so that I can still hear the beats and do the comparison. The problem I am having is that when I go still higher, say in the final octave, I can hear the beats of the third but I can't hear the beats of the 17th, or any ripple at all. I can't therefore compare the two beats rates and check the octave. The higher note also dies away quicker so it makes it even more difficult. Is there any special technique I should use to be able to hear the beat rate of the 17th so that I can check the higher octaves? Thank you very much for your help. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Robert Finley</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>