<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)" name=Generator> <STYLE> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </STYLE> <o:SmartTagType name="State" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType> <STYLE> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none" vLink=purple link=blue><BR>Jumping all over Joe..."<FONT size=2>A non–metal element found in all living things"  definition when googling "what is carbon?"<BR></FONT><BR>David Ilvedson, RPT<BR>Pacifica, California<BR><BR><BR><BR> <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 3px solid; PADDING-TOP: 5px"> <HR> Original message<BR>From: "Porritt, David" <DPORRITT@MAIL.SMU.EDU><BR>To: joegarrett@earthlink.net, "Pianotech List" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Received: 5/11/2006 4:36:42 AM<BR>Subject: RE: Dag<BR><BR> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal align=left><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hmmmmmm, Joe graphite is carbon not metal.  I don’t personally use graphite but if I did it would still be carbon.  </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">dave<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">David M. Porritt</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Joseph Garrett<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:49 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> pianotech<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Dag</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Julia asked: "</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="AGaramond Bold"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Greetings, </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Just curious, can Acheson dag after it is dried up, be re ground and </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">liquified again? If so, what would the solvent/medium be? If it cannot be re </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">liquified, then if it is ground into a fine powder, can it be used as a </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">graphite lube for pedal rods and such, where smeared black stuff isnt a matter?</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Thanks in advance,"</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Julia,</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">The solvent for Dag is Isopropyl Alcohol. Yes, it can be "reconstituted". However, I do not recommend it for lubing "pedal rods and such..." It's fine for coating bridge tops, if you must, but...Think about it: Graphite is a natural metal/rock. When powdered, it's still metal. If you apply it to other metal it will coat, (somewhat), but you've still got metal against metal. In a friction situation you WILL GET SQUEAKS when you use this stuff. Trapwork, generally works, noise free, if you use absolutely nothing. However, there are exceptions.<G> In the exceptional cases, a lube that is better suited for such is VJ Lube or the more modern version that uses Teflon. In my opinion, Graphite, in any form, has NO PLACE in pianos! (There are better alternatives.)</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Joe Garrett, R.P.T. 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