<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV> <DIV>Hi Jim.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Believe it or not I've managed tuning these piano-shaped objects with pulling the dang action out, and doing a good pluck tuning using my SAT.   I find that if you can do a really good pluck-and-pin-setting (with some "flag-pole" testing), then believe it or not you don't entirely need to have the hammers hit the strings.  Especially, of course, for any pitch raisin, but for a two-thirds decent fine tuning that will hold up for basic playing.  (I haven't had any concert pianists with birdcages.)  Maybe I'm weird, odd, and left-handed, (sinistre), but it worked reasonably well for me.  A big relief from bothering with Papps and what not, though that's noble.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Other than that I'm usually inclined to tell people, in a kind voice,  to use their piano as -- just that - a BIRDCAGE.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Noel Kaufmann</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jim@pianoguy.com href="mailto:jim@pianoguy.com">Jim</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 5/12/2006 7:13:05 PM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Birdcage tuning</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Other issues aside, how does one strip mute a piano of this design . .  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>They really give me a pain . .  luckily, only have a few customers with these 'antiques' . .</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>JIm Kinnea</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=alan@forsythalan.wanadoo.co.uk href="mailto:alan@forsythalan.wanadoo.co.uk">alan forsyth</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 12, 2006 6:54 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: The pitch raise speech (not to be read by ladies)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is the sort of C#*^$Ł% I have to put up with nearly every day!</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2>This piano will not raise above A425Hz</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></STRONG><IMG alt="" hspace=0 src="cid:410-220065613424147502@13071999" align=baseline border=0></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><IMG alt="" hspace=0 src="cid:184671-220065613424147503@13071999" align=baseline border=0></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2>AF</FONT></STRONG></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>