<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: AGaramond Bold" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD><TITLE>Light fixtures</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1522" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </STYLE> <o:SmartTagType name="State" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType> <STYLE> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=purple link=blue> <DIV> <DIV>Ah, come on David! I don't "hate" pianos. There are some that gain my loathing, but that's not the reason to use "Universals". Some pianos are "just make it work" kinds, these are not going to last much longer and the owners are not going to dump a bunch of bucks into them. Example: 1880, Over Damper, English, Rust up the whazzoo, Parts are extremely fragile, owned by an 80 year old spinster on a fixed income......yada! Get the picture? Universals have their place. Especially, if care is taken to install them properly. In order to do that, one needs to have a good micrometer, scaling knowlege, and meticulous skill. It is not a string to replace on a S&S "B" or such, (even though I've done it, in a "pinch" situation.<G>)</DIV> <DIV>I suggest you get your nose out of the clouds and greet the Real World realistically, in this regard. Just my Opinion. </DIV> <DIV>For those who only have high-end clientelle, like you obviously do, then I can understand why you don't use them. For me, Square Grands, Square Pianos, Over-Damper Uprights and a lot of weird, POS pianos, is the norm. (Just did two Square Grands and an Over-Damper piano this week.) (I have over 70 Squares in my Data Base.)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)</DIV> <DIV>Captain, Tool Police</DIV> <DIV>Squares R I</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dporritt@mail.smu.edu href="mailto:dporritt@mail.smu.edu">Porritt, David</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=joegarrett@earthlink.net href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</A>;<A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 6/3/06 10:34:45 AM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Wire Size</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Joe:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I’ve been doing this work for 33+ years and while I used to have universal bass strings I haven’t for about 25 years.  What do you use them for?  (i.e. what kind of piano do you hate so much that you use universals on it?)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">dave<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">David M. Porritt</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Joseph Garrett<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, June 03, 2006 9:41 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> pianotech<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Wire Size</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">It is best to invest in the Tools of the Trade. First: a good micrometer. Second: Order the 1/3rd pound coils of wire, (with the Brake) Third: A complete set of Universal Bass Strings. Anything less, is not professional, IMO.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Since Money is always an issue, I'd suggest the Micrometer First, (borrow wire from your <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mentor</st1:place></st1:City>).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Oregon</st1:place></st1:State>)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Captain, Tool Police<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'">Squares R I<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="AGaramond Bold" size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'AGaramond Bold'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>