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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks John. I'll give it a try. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Marshall</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=john@formsmapiano.com href="mailto:john@formsmapiano.com">John M.
Formsma</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 09, 2006 7:17 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: More on hearing
protection</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You’re trying to make
this harder than it needs to be. ;-)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just use a plain
hammer shank like you get from a supplier (or an old one would work). <I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Gently</SPAN></I> press on the string somewhere in
the speaking length. That’s all there is to it. Again, the idea is to get
deflection like you would from a hard blow, only you’re doing it with the
shank and not with a hard blow.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Obviously, common
sense would dictate that you wouldn’t do this right next to the agraffe or
bridge pins. You want to do it where you get some movement fairly
easily.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John
Formsma<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>pianotune05@comcast.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:19
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Pianotech List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: More on hearing
protection</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
John,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I don't know. I'm not old yet. ;)
I'm still a teen ager, age 40. going on 41.:) LOL
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Do you place the shank just above
and below the bridge pin as one does to level the string? Does the
hammer shank need to have a point or can I take an old hammer from an action
and take the top off and use the flat smooth end of the shank? Thanks
again.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<BR>From: "John M. Formsma" <<st1:PersonName
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<P class=MsoNormal><U1:CITY u2:st="on"><U1:PLACE u2:st="on"><st1:City
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes, so to speak.
Gentle pressure, not a jab. You just want to see if the string moves (i.e.,
pitch changes), which is the purpose of a hard blow. However, the shank can
deflect more than a test blow will; hence the effectiveness. Not that you
need to be moving the string very far, but it’s more effective than smacking
the heck out of the string without the damaging and/or painful effects of a
hard blow. In other words, you’ll get more deflection with the shank than a
hard blow.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Funny on me. After
I posted this, I started thinking, hmmm…seems like this has come up on the
list before. So I did a search, and found that yours truly mentioned this
back in November 1999. Aaggh! How embarrasking! I remember the class now…my
first convention, Steinway all-day, John Patton session. I’m only 35, so I
can’t claim this as a senior moment. Is this what it’s like when you get
old??? ;-)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John Formsma
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>pianotune05<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:19
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <U1:PERSONNAME
u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Pianotech
List</U1:PERSONNAME></st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: More on hearing
protection</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
John,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What do you mean by deflect the
string? What do you actually do to the string. I'm trying to visualize
this. Are we poking the string with a hammer shank?
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=john@formsmapiano.com href="mailto:john@formsmapiano.com">John M.
Formsma</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech
List'</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:25 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> RE:
More on hearing protection<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Geoff,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I just learned a
new thing to allow one to tune a piano at pianissimo levels. *(Courtesy of
Leonard Gustafson, RPT, of the Memphis PTG chapter, who picked it up from
a Steinway tech doing a technical at one of our chapter
meetings.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyway, you use a
vertical hammer shank (or something similar) to slightly deflect the
string after it’s tuned. The idea is that a hard test blow will show any
string movement (from deflection by the hammer). A deflection by a hammer
shank will also do this, but at a greater level than the severest test
blow ever could. I used this yesterday on the four pianos I tuned (2 verts
& 2 grands), and it worked very well, although it’s slow at first b/c
it’s a new skill. I gave one string ten whacks as hard as I could, and
nothing moved in the slightest. I also did a few hard blows in various
sections to ensure that it works everywhere. I’m very glad to know of this
as my playing/test blow elbow has been sore
lately.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The only downside
I can see is that it might take a bit longer at first. (Leonard tunes in
45min to 1 hour, so it hasn’t slowed him down.) The positives are that we
won’t have hearing loss from hard test blows, and body damage is also
greatly reduced. I’ll gladly trade test blows for a few more years of
hearing and less pain.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John
Formsma<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Geoff Sykes<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:00
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Pianotech@Ptg.
Org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> More on
hearing protection</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">With the "Noise-Induced
Hearing Loss, Part 2" article in the Q&A section of The Journal,
I'd like to hear from some fellow tech's who have tried the Zem earplugs,
by Sensgard. They're ugly, but the technology is such a different approach
than just a simple "plug" that perhaps they could be very useful. I have
been using 32db foam Hearos, but I find that while the foam is comfortable
I get a lot of attenuation variation from one set to the next, and they're
not that flat in response. I also have a pair of </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'">Etymotic</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> High
Fidelity Earplugs, (identical to the Hearos High Fidelity Ear Filters),
which work great. My only complaints are that they're not that long
term comfortable ! and tha t since the frequency response is much flatter,
the attenuation, (rated at 20db), is perhaps a little too much. Zem
claims 32db reduction. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-- Geoff
Sykes</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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