<html><body> <DIV>Dean,</DIV> <DIV>Just do what Paul did to a guy whos's name I cannot recall, Paul the Apostle that is, he turned this guy over to Satan for blasphemy. He turned him over to Satan to teach him a lesson.  </DIV> <DIV>Marshall</DIV> <DIV>ps. I'm curious how this thread got started myself.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Dean May" <deanmay@pianorebuilders.com> > Let's see: you are poking fun at the most internally consistent > philosophical paradigm of the universe by using the wisdom of fictional > cartoon characters or the guttural nonsense of a very vile man. If that's > the best you got I'll stick with the wisdom of the ages. > > Dude, stop showing your prejudicial hostility towards things Christian and > try exhibiting a little more tolerance. > > Dean > > -----Original Message----- > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf > Of Geoff Sykes > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 4:10 PM > To: tune4u@earthlink.net; 'Pianotech List' > Subject: RE: Gender of God, and other piano-realted stuff - ENOUGH ALRE ADY > > : Prophet (American Heritage Dictionary): The chief spokesperson of a > movement or cause. > > : Apostle (American Heritage Dictionary): A passionate adherent; a strong > supporter. > > : Gospel (WordNet, Princeton University): The written body of teachings of a > (religious) group that are generally accepted by that group. > > OK, so I got a little picky in the definitions that I chose. But that said, > and while agreeing that, (depending upon what the definition of "is" is), > "God" "is", let's see if we can make this just that much sillier! Here's the > testimony that I received: > > "Christians use Hell to scare people into believing what they believe. But > to believe in something just because you're afraid of the consequences if > you don't believe in something is no reason to believe in something." > -- Homer Simpson > > > And then --- > Asked by Bart what his religious beliefs are, Homer answers, "You know, the > one with all the well-meaning rules that don't work in real life. Uh, > Christianity." > > > No one would mistake Homer Simpson and his family for saints. In many ways, > in fact, they are quintessentially weak, good-hearted sinners who rely on > their faith -- but only when absolutely necessary. > -- Michael Medved > > > "(The Simpsons) have captured a very common understanding of who God is," > said Glodo, of Reformed Theological Seminary. "It's a very functional view > of religion." > > > > > And with that, I'm running for cover. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf > Of Alan Barnard > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:15 PM > To: Pianotech List > Subject: RE: Gender of God, and other piano-realted stuff - ENOUGH ALREADY > > > God ... the ultimate inconvenient, yet absolute, truth. > > How on earth did this silly thread get started? Why am I perpetuating it > even one more keystroke? > > Oh yeah, to declare out of necessity a portion of my resolute testimony: God > IS. You have the testimony of prophets and apostles from Adam to the present > day and you have the absolute right and capability to receive your own > testimony. > > Don't let fear stop you. > > Alan Barnard > Salem, Missouri > > P.S. If this post offends anyone, they have my sympathy. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Geoff Sykes > To: Pianotech List > Sent: 06/19/2006 12:44:09 PM > Subject: RE: Gender of God, and other piano-realted stuff - ENOUGH ALREADY > > > Let's lighten up, people. If you can't follow George's proposed new third > commandment, (see end of article), then please take this conversation to a > forum where it is appropriate. May I suggest the following Google search: > http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=god+male+female > > ===================================== > > GEORGE CARLIN ON THE 10 COMMANDMENTS > from "Complaints and Grievances" (HBO special) > > Here is my problem with the ten commandments- why exactly are there 10? > > You simply do not need ten. The list of ten commandments was artificially > and deliberately inflated to get it up to ten. Here's what happened: > > About 5,000 years ago a bunch of religious and political hustlers got > together to try to figure out how to control people and keep them in line. > They knew people were basically stup id and would believe anything they were > told, so they announced that God had given them some commandments, up on a > mountain, when no one was around. > > Well let me ask you this- when they were making this s**t up, why did they > pick 10? Why not 9 or 11? I'll tell you why- because 10 sounds official. Ten > sounds important! Ten is the basis for the decimal system, it's a decade, > it's a psychologically satisfying number (the top ten, the ten most wanted, > the ten best dressed). So having ten commandments was really a marketing > decision! It is clearly a b******t list. It's a political document > artificially inflated to sell better. I will now show you how you can reduce > the number of commandments and come up with a list that's a little more > workable and logical. I am going to use the Roman Catholic version because > those were the ones I was taught as a little boy. > & gt; Let's start with the first three: > > I AM THE LORD THY GOD THOU SHALT NOT HAVE STRANGE GODS BEFORE ME > > THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN > > THOU SHALT KEEP HOLY THE SABBATH > > Right off the bat the first three are pure b******t. Sabbath day? Lord's > name? strange gods? Spooky language! Designed to scare and control primitive > people. In no way does superstitious nonsense like this apply to the lives > of intelligent civilized humans in the 21st century. So now we're down to 7. > Next: > > HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER > > Obedience, respect for authority. Just another name for controlling people. > The truth is that obedience and respect shouldn't be automatic. They should > be earned and based on the parent's performance. Some parents deserve > respect, but most of them don't, period. You're down to six. > > Now in the interest of logic, something religion is very uncomfortable with, > we're going to jump around the list a little bit. > > THOU SHALT NOT STEAL > > THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS > > Stealing and lying. Well actually, these two both prohibit the same kind of > behavior- dishonesty. So you don't really need two you combine them and call > the commandment "thou shalt not be dishonest". And suddenly you're down to > 5. > > And as long as we're combining I have two others that belong together: > > THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY > > THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE > > Once again, these two prohibit the same type of behavior. In this case it is > marital infidelity. The difference is- coveting takes place in the mind. But > I don't think you should outlaw fantasizing about someone else's wife > because what is a guy gonna think about when he's waxing his carrot? But, > marital infidelity is a good idea so we're gonna keep this one and call it > "thou shalt not be unfaithful". And suddenly we're down to four. > > But when you think about it, honesty and infidelity are really part of the > same overall value so, in truth, you could combine the two honesty > commandments with the two fidelity commandments and give them simpler > language, positive language instead of negative language and call the whole > thing "thou shalt always be honest and faithful" and we're down to 3. > > THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR"S GOODS > > This one is just plain f****n' stupid. Coveting your neighbor's goods is > what keeps the economy going! Your neighbor gets a vibrator that plays "o > come o ye faithful", and you want one too! Coveting creates jobs, so leave > it alone. You throw out coveting and you're dow n to 2 now- the big honesty > and fidelity commandment and the one we haven't talked about yet: > > THOU SHALT NOT KILL > > Murder. But when you think about it, religion has never really had a big > problem with murder. More people have been killed in the name of god than > for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, > Cashmere, the Inquisition, the Crusades, and the World Trade Center to see > how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout > they are, the more they see murder as being negotiable. It depends on who's > doin the killin' and who's gettin' killed. So, with all of this in mind, I > give you my revised list of the two commandments: > > Thou shalt always be honest and faithful to the provider of thy nookie. > > & > > Thou shalt try real hard not to kill anyone, unless of course they pray t o a > different invisible man than you. > > Two is all you need; Moses could have carried them down the hill in his > f****n' pocket. I wouldn't mind those folks in Alabama posting them on the > courthouse wall, as long as they provided one additional commandment: > > Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf > Of pianotune05@comcast.net > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:21 AM > To: Pianotech List > Subject: Re: Gender of God, and other piano-realted stuff..... > > > Definitly faith I would attest. Now we're getting into even deeper > theological topics which I know I'd get in trouble for discussing because > they're not piano related. Someone else who's been a piano tech longer than > I who isn't new might get by with it .:) All I will say is that discussing > those who wrote Scripture then opens the door for the topic, then who truly > wrote the Bible the people who thought the earth was flat or God inspiring > them? I know the answer, but I'll leave it for another list. Marshall > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Robin Blankenship" <TUNERDUDE@COMCAST.NET> > > What evidence do you have for that assertion, Luis? Or, is this statement > just to be taken on faith............ > > Robin Blankenship > ----- Original Message ----- > From: LuisGalvez@aol.com > To: pianotech@ptg.org > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 11:23 AM > Subject: Re: Gender of God, and other piano-realted stuff..... > > > Remember that the people who wrote the bible thought the earth was flat. > > Luis Antonio Galvez-Alcantara "He was deeply in love. When she spoke, he > thought he heard bells, as if she were a garbage truck backing up." > www.tenors.net > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006 > > > > > </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>