<html> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=windows-1250"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)"> <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=teal face=Arial><span style='font-size: 14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'>Ben,</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=teal face=Arial><span style='font-size: 14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'>I have had the same experience  with turned front rail pins. The immediate response appears to give excellent results, the key does feel tighter,nicer to play and the keys are nicely spaced. However, my experience has been that after some time these keys started  to stick,  humidity must have  come into play here and I ended up putting the pin back basically to where it was. Maybe a new set of key bushings would have been the safest fix.</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=teal face=Arial><span style='font-size: 14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'> </span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=teal face=Arial><span style='font-size: 14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'>Regards</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=teal face=Arial><span style='font-size: 14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'>George</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=teal face=Arial><span style='font-size: 14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'>Piano Tech . NL, Can</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=teal face=Arial><span style='font-size: 14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'> </span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=teal face="BernhardFashion BT"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"BernhardFashion BT";color:teal'>Keep That Piano Tuned UP.........</span></font></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=teal face=Arial><span style='font-size: 14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal'> </span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ben J<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:00 PM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> pianotech@ptg.org<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Pianotech Digest, Vol 1276, Issue 119</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"Is there a down side to this. Am I missing something? </span></font></p> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tom - If you are going to turn front rail pins to take up slack in a worn key bushings I would suggest leaving the key with just a little more slack than you would normaly like to feel. I have traced the cause or more than one sticking key to a turned front rail pin, ( some of which I have turned myself). Sometimes for what ever reason the bushing tightens up on the turned pin after you leave the house of course and the key starts sticking. Just a thought- Ben E Johnston  RPT  </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </span></font></div> </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tom Sivak<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:31 AM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> pianotech<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> twisting front rail key pins</span></font></p> </div> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>List</span></font></p> </div> </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br> I've always been told, "Don't twist the front key pins to eliminate side motion on keys that have the key bushings worn out."  And I've always accepted that.</span></font></p> </div> </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Last week I was at a composer/friend's house.  He has a 1930s Kimball grand, really worn out.  I did a full regulation on the piano, and he didn't want to pay for new key bushings, so I twisted them, and the difference is wonderful.  No side play on the keys, feels like a million bucks.</span></font></p> </div> </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Now I understand it would be unethical to do that to a piano and then sell it, hiding a problem, but what's wrong with improving the play of a piano by doing the same?  Sure, it may accelerate wear on the bushings, but the bushings are worn out now!  They need replacing already.  All this does is extend the deadline and make the piano play much better until D Day comes.</span></font></p> </div> </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Am I missing something?  What's the down side to this?<br> <br> Tom Sivak</span></font></p> </div> </div> <div><u1:City u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on"> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Chicago</span></font></p> </u1:place></u1:City></div> </div> </blockquote> <p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>  </span></font></p> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=1 width="100%" align=center> </span></font></div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Yahoo! 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