<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1543" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi David, The ETDs are only a tool that help a good tech become a better tech who is more rested at the end of the day ( IMHO ) Sort of like when I was growing up we dug ditch with a shovel  {{ Conn Strobatuner}} and now we use a back hoe or trencher { see below}.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When I was a teen and doing custom thrashing with my father, we started out with open air machines and ate dirt and chaff 10 hours a day.  After a few years got our first enclosed air conditioned cab. You dont have to think too hard to know who ran that machine <G></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At the end of each day my father would get off the combine tired but not exhausted and encrusted with dirt like me.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The next year after long hours and very hot days I was so exhausted one hot afternoon that I went to sleep while backing up in the field and tore the back end off my machine.  I drove to the farm where my father was working wondering what to say.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I crawled up on his machine, opened the door of his cozy cab and said "I think that we need to invest in an air cab for my machine." He asked why. Then I let him know what had happened. He never said a word just sort of nodded.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The next year we bought a watter cooled unit {{ Yamaha PT 100}} That helped a lot but after a few years of having it quit during the heat of the day we purchased the parts to upgrade to a fully air conditioned cab. {{SAT lll, Verituner, Tune Lab, Cyber Tuner }}</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My Motto: "Work easier. Let a tool do the work for you."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Aside; the PT 100 never quit on me, it just had too many limits to what it would do for me, with the instrument being designed for Yamaha pianos. I know one tech here who does wonderful work with this tool,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Its just not for me.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I guess it is Sunday so I can write a missive.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Happy tuning all.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dlawson@davidlawsonspianos.com.au href="mailto:dlawson@davidlawsonspianos.com.au">David Lawson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 09, 2006 5:39 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Tuning</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>G'day to you all.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As an oldie, and an aural tuner, and knowing very little about electronic tuning devices, I am amazed at the amount of reference there is to the later. Are there still people being taught aural tuning, or have those days gone? I find the ear to be the best way to judge what is required from a tuning of a particular piano. I may be wrong, however using an ETD seems to me to be similar to playing a digital keyboard, you get what they give you. Am I way off the beam, or just a little too old to judge?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Love the banter.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David Lawson  Wangaratta   Australia.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>