<html> <body> David, The latest piano specific ETDs are designed to tune by the same rules we do.  You can customize how they work to fit your style.  They never have bad days and sure take the guesswork out of large pitch corrections.  On pianos I love I spend a lot more time listening.  I do plan to pass the RPT exam and my ETD has testing functions built into it that enable me to practice. Andrew At 06:39 PM 7/9/2006, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">G'day to you all. As an oldie, and an aural tuner, and knowing very little about electronic tuning devices, I am amazed at the amount of reference there is to the later. Are there still people being taught aural tuning, or have those days gone? I find the ear to be the best way to judge what is required from a tuning of a particular piano. I may be wrong, however using an ETD seems to me to be similar to playing a digital keyboard, you get what they give you. Am I way off the beam, or just a little too old to judge? Love the banter. David Lawson  Wangaratta   Australia.</blockquote></body> </html>