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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=295435313-29072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I was a member who never planned on taking the exams.
As such I never expeted RPT status to be of any particular value, and after
being RPT for nearly 10 years, I still sort of feel that way.
My confidence has always come as I have done good work. I have only a very
few times gained work because I was an RPT. But the
ideals of the PTG suggest that this is an organization designed to support
technicians of a certain level of accomplishment or above, and in order to
verify that, persons have to somehow demonstrate their competence in a public
forum. The method isn't perfect,and I got in trouble even fighting over
the tests, but the bureaucrats had their way and I finally jumped through their
hoops. However until one has done things <EM>their</EM> way,
one has not proven satisfactorily that s/he has the modicum of accomplishment to
be recognized as one of those creatures called RPT, and therefore really does
not merit the same advertised credibility as one who has gone through the
hoops. We have a local guy, his dad a CTE in another
state, who refuses to join the Guild because of some bad experiences he had in
this chapter a couiple decades ago. I'll put his tunings and rebuilds up
against most anyone, certainly around Houston, at least. Unless one
knows him and of his work, one really has no way of knowing whether he can "cut
it" or is bogus. I hate bureaucracies, and PTG is
one of them things. But within it are a lot of very good
people who have come to a mind to join as a Guild, to provide meetings and
training conventions, email lists etc. to anyone, but with their stated
goal is that persons disipline themselves to pass certain tests which qualifiy
them as RPT. So, <EM>implied in membership</EM> is going through the exam
process. I certainly hate to admit it as I fought it for several
years. I have to side with the RPT's, though. I know lots of
people who are incredibly smart who are not college graduates. Until they
have jumped through all the college hoops, they cannot claim the same status in
the work place as a college graduate, except for those few who excel so far that
their accomplishments far outdistance a piece of paper. Same with RPT
status. It's certainly an imperfect system. I am quite sure
devising a perfect system would only work for perfect persons, and so few of
those exist as to make the exercise rather futile. So, in a sense
persons who are not RPT's are non-existent as they have not completed their
memebership by doing what is at least implicit in the bylaws- gain skills to
pass exams and prove they have the skills to call themselves
RPT. In <EM>my</EM> defense as RPT, I jumped through the
hoops and am not unhappy that I do have a greater status in the organization
than one who has not. The exams are not particularly difficult. For me they were
psychological torture. For others they are just a slight bump in the
road. But those who are RPT have put their skills on display in
public, to be judged by people of competence.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=295435313-29072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>JMO</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=295435313-29072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>les bartlett</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=295435313-29072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Houston</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Cy
Shuster<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:18 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech
List; James H Frazee<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Why? Why? Why?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=2>Only RPTs are listed to the public.
If you login to the member area, you are listed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=2>--Cy--</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=jimfrazee@msn.com href="mailto:jimfrazee@msn.com">James H Frazee</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ptg@ptg.org
href="mailto:ptg@ptg.org">ptg@ptg.org</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Piano_tech_list</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 29, 2006 6:41
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Why? Why? Why?</DIV>
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<DIV>I'd like to know why I am <STRONG><EM>non-existent</EM></STRONG> in your
database of members when using "Finding a Technician" - I'm in my second year
of membership so don't even think about telling me the site hasn't been
updated - you certainly send my dues bill on time! I am extremely
unhappy about this! I've also searched for a couple of other techs I
know in my chapter - same result! Why am I paying dues to you? To
do "part" of your job? Unacceptable, period. Shame on you.</DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jim Frazee<BR>914.763.8689<BR><A title=mailto:jimfrazee@msn.com
href="mailto:jimfrazee@msn.com">jimfrazee@msn.com</A></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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