<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2912" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV> <DIV>Jason,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Here's a few thougts to get you started:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yes, replace the plate and measure to the nearest mm.  Pscale and Arledge both work with metric lengths.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If the plate hasn't been cleaned up or refinished yet, you may be able to see which tenor/treble hitch pins had tied loops.  They're usually next to a strut.  If you can't tell, you'll have to cound hitch pins and do the math (3 pins for each 2 notes means no tied loops, more pins means tied loops).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Non-destructive hole measurement might be hard to accomplish, since you're dealing with a rough surface, and a compressible material.  Also, no guarantee they're all the same size.  If you're comfortable with over-sized pins, you might drill/ream to the appropriate diameter.  Or do one of the epoxy fill or hardwood plug repairs that have been discussed here.  (You didn't mention budget restrictions??)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bass scaling.  This is fun, and I think you would enjoy working this problem.  But, if you just send your tracings to James Arledge, he will do the scaling analysis and send a set of super strings.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>have fun</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>mike</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jkanter@rollingball.com href="mailto:jkanter@rollingball.com">Jason Kanter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 7/31/2006 9:38:02 PM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Help scaling</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>List,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I have the task of restringing this Schaff baby grand (see small pic). Unfortunately all scaling information was discarded, along with the old strings and tuning pins, before I showed up. No idea what sizes any of the strings were, nor what gauge the tuning pins were. Also, the plate has been removed (though fortunately not discarded!). I have never done a scaling analysis but am possessed of a very analytical mind, so I am eager to do as much of this as I can myself. But please: what are the steps?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Here are my assumptions.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I will need to replace the plate so that I can take measurements of the speaking lengths, probably to nearest mm or 32nd. (.01"?)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I'll need an app like ScaleMaster or Pscale to crunch some numbers. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I will need to examine the pin block to determine tuning pin size. (Can I measure a hole nondestructively, i.e. without pounding a pin into it?)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I'll need some kind and experienced mentor-type soul to review my analysis before I go to the step of ordering bass strings.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Any help out there?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Jason Kanter</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT> </DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>