<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No, no, the fact that we have the fourth seasons in the same day was a joke about belgian weather ;-) </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but as Stéphane observed, we had a very hot July and a is quite rainy August... </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>I in july I had about 60% </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>humidity and now it raised to 80%. thats why I wondered if I shouldn't wait until it's back to 60% before</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>tuning it to A440 instead of doing it now and have to raise it again in one month.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now about the dampp-chaser, I just called Taffijn and he confirmed that it would cost arount 400-500€...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but they do not sell anymore, because for benelux, it is now sold exclusively by Orimex in Dordrecht </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(near Roterdam)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, since I currently don't have one and have, neither the time nor the money to buy one,</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> and since </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>my </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>piano has raised because of the humidity, would you recommend to </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>lower it, and raise it again when </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>humidity lower again, or to leave it alone, optionaly tuning it on itself until humidity reach 60% again ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Philippe Errembault</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ps: Stéphane, <FONT face=Arial size=2>are you sure this year is so exceptional ? I had the feeling that we had the same weather </FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>as last year - By the way, this is all the fault of american people because they won't sign Kyoto protocol ! </FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now is the time </FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>I get killed ;-) </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ed440@mindspring.com href="mailto:ed440@mindspring.com">ed440@mindspring.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 18, 2006 3:44 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Is it a good idea to tuned on itself a piano outtuned becuseofhumidity</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV>You said the humidity changes several times a day, didn't you?</DIV> <DIV>Why not close the back or bottom with a plastic sheet and keep the case closed as much as possible.</DIV> <DIV>It is possible to seal both bottom and top of a grand piano with plastic sheets.</DIV> <DIV>Ed Sutton<BR><BR><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Stéphane Collin <COLLIN.S@SKYNET.BE><BR>Sent: Aug 17, 2006 8:22 PM <BR>To: Pianotech List <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Subject: Re: Is it a good idea to tuned on itself a piano outtuned becuse ofhumidity <BR><BR><ZZZHTML><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><ZZZMETA content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name="GENERATOR"> <STYLE></STYLE> </ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY bgColor="#ffffff"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Indeed Philippe,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That is what I would do : install a dampp-chaser to get rid of the humidity swings that no piano likes, and when changing for another, keep the dampp-chaser for the new one.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Btw, are you enjoying the coldest month of August ever, after the hottest month of July ever ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best regards.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stéphane Collin.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=phil.errembault@skynet.be href="mailto:phil.errembault@skynet.be">Philippe Errembault</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 18, 2006 12:57 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Is it a good idea to tuned on itself a piano outtuned becuse ofhumidity</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well, because I use it !!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but with the wooden frame, it moves quite much with humidity variations. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the point is the Damp-chaser is probably much more expensive than the value of the piano...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now, if I ever have to change the piano, maybe I could move the damp-chaser to the new one !?!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Philippe Errembault</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=collin.s@skynet.be href="mailto:collin.s@skynet.be">Stéphane Collin</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:37 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Is it a good idea to tuned on itself a pianoouttunedbecuseofhumidity</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Philippe.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the piano is not worth preserving it, why would you preserve it ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stéphane Collin.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; 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