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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have put vinegar on hide glue and had it
soften it to the point that I could take things apart. At the Piano Hospital
we had many sets of loose upright hammers and turning the action up side down and
applying vinegar, the next day they would be tight. Also taking care of the
piano threw the years, it did hold. If you get a chance, call Don Mitchell
or Ken Serviss.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a href="http://www.pianoboutique.biz"><font
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Joseph Garrett<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 23, 2006
12:02 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> pianotech<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Vinegar...was
"coming apart..."</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'>William B said: "</span></font><font
face="MS Sans Serif"><span style='font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'>I seem to
remember a thread about a faster whippen or a new vertical with a much better
grand type feel. I would appreciate any information on this." </span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="MS Sans Serif"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'>That, IMHO, will simply Stink up the Place
and accomplish nothing. Contrary to common thought, Vinegar does not do a thing
to breaking down Hide glue! If you were using Glacial Acidic Acid, which is
really STRONG version of Vinegar, it would not do a darned thing. I've
experimented with it and found that to be so. As there is quite a lot of water
in vinegar, that is the one thing that will really attack Hide Glue. I've even
tried Papaya extract, which was touted as "killer" of Hide Glue. That
didn't work either!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="MS Sans Serif"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'>The best thing would be a 50-50 solution of
alcohol. The alcohol will "wick" into the wood and bring the water
with it, thereby softening the Hide Glue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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