<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><EM>"So the best option is to dye or stain the wood?"</EM></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Yes.</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> <DIV><BR><EM>"I tried Iron Oxide pigment in alcohol and the wood would not take any color."</EM></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Pigment works very differently from that of stain.</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> <DIV><BR><EM>"I will try a product like this transtint."</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>If the sharps are stripped to bare wood, it will work great. If you don't plan on doing this much in the future, the shoe dye works just as well and is easier.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><BR> </DIV>So the best option is to dye or stain the wood?<BR>I tried Iron Oxide pigment in alcohol and the wood would not take any color.<BR>I will try a product like this transtint.<BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Jeff<BR>On Sep 2, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Farrell wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Verdana>Hmmmm, I don't think any confusion originates on this end (at least on this topic). To quote directly from the "TransTint Liquid Dye Concentrate Technical Data Sheet"<?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Verdana><?color><?param 0000,0000,EEEE>http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/pdf/TransTintTDS%206-2006.pdf<?/color><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Verdana>"The dye can be mixed with either water or alcohol as a bare <I>stain</I> on wood - or added directly to finishing materials like shellac and lacquer to make toners or <I>stains</I>." It goes on to state: "To use TransTints as a <I>stain</I> for bare wood, stir in the concentrate...."<?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Verdana>Sooooo, it would seem to me that the product is both a die and a stain. I suspect it would be fair to call anything that permanently colors something else a stain - like Carbernet Sauvignon is a wine, but can also be a stain (DAMHIK).  :-)<?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Verdana>Hope that clears the air!<?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Verdana>Terry Farrell<?/fontfamily><BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>----- Original Message -----<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>Terry,<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>        <?/x-tad-bigger><?x-tad-bigger>You might be confusing someone here. The product is either die or stain to the best of my knowledge, not both. The Transtint you speak of is decidedly dye NOT stain. Shoe products are also dyer and NOT stain. I hope that might be some clarification for Jeff.<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>best,<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>Greg<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR><BR><BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>At 07:40 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote:<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>Lots in the archives on this. Many ways to do it. If you must stain the beautiful natural ebony - use black die stain  -  #6023 Black <?color><?param 0000,0000,EEEE>http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/htdocs/TransTint.htm<?/color><BR><BR>Or, go to your local shoe dude and get some black shoe stain.<BR><BR>Finish with a clear coat of your choice - I like a nice oil finish - just wipe in on.<BR><BR>Terry Farrell<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>Hi<BR>First time posting here.<BR><BR>Does anyone know if there is a standard procedure for blackening sharps.<BR><BR>I have a set which had an ugly finish - shiny and wavy gravy.<BR>I stripped them and the ebony is quite "blond" in color - sort of tiger striped.<BR><BR>I can't figure out how to get them to take stain. (wood being so extremely dense).<BR>I have attempted to "paint" them with shellac mixed with iron oxide pigment (very nice black).<BR>But I cant get a good surface  without sanding through at the corners.<BR><BR>This is all to say - I am clueless.<BR>What do the factories do?<BR>Any standard tricks for a standard look?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Jeff<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><I><?fontfamily><?param Lucida Handwriting>Greg Newell<?/fontfamily></I><BR><I><?fontfamily><?param Lucida Handwriting>Greg's Piano Forté<?/fontfamily></I><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,EEEE>mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net<?/color><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,EEEE>www.gregspianoforte.com<?/color> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>