<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <META content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)" name=Generator> <STYLE> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </STYLE> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none" vLink=purple link=blue> Michelle, You know of course you get free samples when you plug Joe's stuff?   I'm sure it's in the mail...;-] David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044 <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 3px solid; PADDING-TOP: 5px"> <HR> Original message From: "Michelle Smith" <MICHELLE@CDAUSTIN.COM> To: "Pianotech List" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG> Received: 9/5/2006 7:01:02 PM Subject: RE: Naphtha update and question <DIV class=Section1> Hi Avery.  I was going to use the Naphtha but ended up using Joe’s Goose Juice.  Worked great.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Concerning the traveling paper, I just slipped them in temporarily to see if they would help rotate the hammer back into the grooves.  I didn’t want to do anything permanent yet.  In three of the four, it helped.  The grooves definitely need to be dealt with.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Have a great evening.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Michelle<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </DIV> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Avery Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:54 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Naphtha update and question<o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> Hi Michelle, At 05:50 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote: <o:p></o:p> Hi all.  A couple of days ago I asked the group about Naphtha and other liquids that might free up an old Steinway action.   The hammers were really stiff (1 to 1.5 swings) so I removed each hammer, lubricated, wagged them back and forth, and got about 5 swings out of them.  <o:p></o:p> What did you lube them with? Naptha? <o:p></o:p> I was so proud of myself until I put the action back in the piano.  The action moved much better but two other things happened:   <o:p></o:p> <OL type=1> <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1">The piano had a more mellow tone--almost muffled in some areas <o:p></o:p> <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1">About four notes have a strange small tinny sound almost like a guitar string is being plucked.  <o:p></o:p></LI></OL>   Is it possible that the strings arent hitting exactly in the same (deep) grooves as before?  I put some travel paper under the tinny notes which helped some but not all. <o:p></o:p> Why did you do that? Were they not travelling correctly? Tinny notes don't necessarily mean they aren't traveling correctly. Travel the shanks, do the burning and then see what they sound like. Then do the hammer to string mating. Traveling isn't the way to correct a "tinny" sounding note. Necessarily! :-) Avery <o:p></o:p>     Still learning and looking forward to your opinions,   Michelle Smith<o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>