<html>  <head></head> <body>  <DIV></DIV>Hi Robin, the original flanges didn't have a washer, but the new ones did.The flanges screwed in fine, but wedged in at the high treble. I also had to replace a couple of jack springs. Is there a chance they need new as well?<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message from "Robin Blankenship" <tunerdude@comcast.net>: -------------- <BR><BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Richard,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I had a very similiar problem with a different brand of piano action....screws into an aluminum action rail. I found some little plastic washers left over from putting a metal shed together and they seemed to really help the screws seat firmly and lock the flanges into place. I don't know what one would ask for at a hardware store, but I have to believe that somelike that that is out there..</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>good luck, I know this is no fun for you</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Robin Blankenship</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=richard.ucci@att.net href="mailto:richard.ucci@att.net">richard.ucci@att.net</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 15, 2006 9:14 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: yamaha butt flange repair</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Thanks Bill, I was thinking along those lines, but some of the set screws on some butts don't seem to be holding the hammer butt secure. it can be moved side to side, and will start to wooble in a short time I would think. <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message from "William R. Monroe" <<A href="mailto:pianotech@a440piano.net">pianotech@a440piano.net</A>>: -------------- <BR><BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>richard,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>do you have a sander?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>put it to good use.  i recently did the same job, had the same trouble.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>just sand down the sides of the flanges a bit.  doesn't take much.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>best, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>william r. monroe</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=richard.ucci@att.net href="mailto:richard.ucci@att.net">richard.ucci@att.net</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 15, 2006 7:51 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> yamaha butt flange repair</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hi Listers,</DIV> <DIV>I need some advice on a Yamaha hammer butt flange replacement I just did.</DIV> <DIV>Many of the original flanges in the upper treble were so closely fitted I had to pry them loose from the rail.</DIV> <DIV>No space between. </DIV> <DIV>Also, the hammer butt would not line up as it had been when the set screw on the plate was tightened. It tweaked them off to the side, and they just didn't feel as secure. They are not spaced to the strings properly now, and it is going to be a problem.</DIV> <DIV>I used flanges from Pianotec, pins are the same size as originals.</DIV> <DIV>The reason for the job was the silk cords being broken.</DIV> <DIV>I could use some help...</DIV> <DIV>Rick Ucci/Ucci Piano  </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>  </body> </html>